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I’m the guy who wrote in about the windows tablet I just bought. I’m so sorry for not responding to any messages that might have come my way, it wasn’t intentional I get a lot of messages a day and I have two email accounts, one from Hotmail and one gmail, and I’ve just now figured out how to link the two inboxes and thread the messages in the built in windows 10 mail app so I should now be able to see and reply to all messages easier and not get buried in the deluge. But anyway. I want to help improve nvda’s touch support, since while it does work it could definitely use some improving. There’s one bug in particular I’ve noticed. This happens on nvda version 2017.1. Steps to reproduce are as follos:

On any hardware with a touch screen, turn on nvda’s input mode with nvda+1. Then simply move around the screen, performing various flicks, taps, or just explore the screen. You’ll notice that nvda often gets the direction and number of fingers placed on the screen wrong. Now I’m not at all certain if this is nvda’s issue or an underlying windows one, I suspect windows, since nvda probably just reportswhat windows gives it. If it helps at all, I’m running windows 10 on a nextbook aeraes 10.1 inch tablet. The exact model number is nxm1012bcp. I cannot code, yet. I’m in the process of trying to learn python so I can help out both the nvda project and the orca screen reader for Linux. I’m a dual booter, I use both vinux and windows 10. So I cannot directly contribute code. But I do still want to help. Where should I start to help track down whatever the problem is? If anyone sent anything to me that already answered this, would you mind reposting? I’ll make sure to read and respond this time.

 

Thanks

Kendell Clark

 

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Re: windows touch screen support in nvda

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The only place I see the touch gestures not matching the number of fingers is when you touch and hold.  It seems to be one finger less than you've got on the screen, but since in general, touch and hold gestures are pretty rare in NVDA, this isn't really a problem.  The only issue I found with NVDA and it's gestures is that a four finger double tap turns on/off keyboard help, and last time I checked, this wasn't mentioned in the documentation.  Otherwise, no issues here with tracking the proper number of fingers or taps on the screen.


On 4/26/2017 4:17 AM, kendell clark wrote:

 

Hi all

I’m the guy who wrote in about the windows tablet I just bought. I’m so sorry for not responding to any messages that might have come my way, it wasn’t intentional I get a lot of messages a day and I have two email accounts, one from Hotmail and one gmail, and I’ve just now figured out how to link the two inboxes and thread the messages in the built in windows 10 mail app so I should now be able to see and reply to all messages easier and not get buried in the deluge. But anyway. I want to help improve nvda’s touch support, since while it does work it could definitely use some improving. There’s one bug in particular I’ve noticed. This happens on nvda version 2017.1. Steps to reproduce are as follos:

On any hardware with a touch screen, turn on nvda’s input mode with nvda+1. Then simply move around the screen, performing various flicks, taps, or just explore the screen. You’ll notice that nvda often gets the direction and number of fingers placed on the screen wrong. Now I’m not at all certain if this is nvda’s issue or an underlying windows one, I suspect windows, since nvda probably just reportswhat windows gives it. If it helps at all, I’m running windows 10 on a nextbook aeraes 10.1 inch tablet. The exact model number is nxm1012bcp. I cannot code, yet. I’m in the process of trying to learn python so I can help out both the nvda project and the orca screen reader for Linux. I’m a dual booter, I use both vinux and windows 10. So I cannot directly contribute code. But I do still want to help. Where should I start to help track down whatever the problem is? If anyone sent anything to me that already answered this, would you mind reposting? I’ll make sure to read and respond this time.

 

Thanks

Kendell Clark

 

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Re: windows touch screen support in nvda

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Hi,

What happens if you disable an add-on called “Enhanced Touch Gestures”?

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: Travis Siegel [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2017 5:45 PM
To: NVDA screen reader development <[hidden email]>
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The only place I see the touch gestures not matching the number of fingers is when you touch and hold.  It seems to be one finger less than you've got on the screen, but since in general, touch and hold gestures are pretty rare in NVDA, this isn't really a problem.  The only issue I found with NVDA and it's gestures is that a four finger double tap turns on/off keyboard help, and last time I checked, this wasn't mentioned in the documentation.  Otherwise, no issues here with tracking the proper number of fingers or taps on the screen.

 

On 4/26/2017 4:17 AM, kendell clark wrote:

 

Hi all

I’m the guy who wrote in about the windows tablet I just bought. I’m so sorry for not responding to any messages that might have come my way, it wasn’t intentional I get a lot of messages a day and I have two email accounts, one from Hotmail and one gmail, and I’ve just now figured out how to link the two inboxes and thread the messages in the built in windows 10 mail app so I should now be able to see and reply to all messages easier and not get buried in the deluge. But anyway. I want to help improve nvda’s touch support, since while it does work it could definitely use some improving. There’s one bug in particular I’ve noticed. This happens on nvda version 2017.1. Steps to reproduce are as follos:

On any hardware with a touch screen, turn on nvda’s input mode with nvda+1. Then simply move around the screen, performing various flicks, taps, or just explore the screen. You’ll notice that nvda often gets the direction and number of fingers placed on the screen wrong. Now I’m not at all certain if this is nvda’s issue or an underlying windows one, I suspect windows, since nvda probably just reportswhat windows gives it. If it helps at all, I’m running windows 10 on a nextbook aeraes 10.1 inch tablet. The exact model number is nxm1012bcp. I cannot code, yet. I’m in the process of trying to learn python so I can help out both the nvda project and the orca screen reader for Linux. I’m a dual booter, I use both vinux and windows 10. So I cannot directly contribute code. But I do still want to help. Where should I start to help track down whatever the problem is? If anyone sent anything to me that already answered this, would you mind reposting? I’ll make sure to read and respond this time.

 

Thanks

Kendell Clark

 

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Re: windows touch screen support in nvda

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Hi

I didn’t even know there was an enhanced touch addon. I’ll try installing it from the addon repository and see if that helps. I’m still very new to touch screens so I could be easily jumping to conclusions about where the problem is or even if there is a problem, but I want to help.

Thanks

Kendell Clark

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From: [hidden email]hi

I didn’t even know there was a touch enhancement addon. I’ll try installing it from the nvda addon repository and see if that helps. It could just be this tablet’s touch screen, or it could be an nvda issue. I’m not sure, but I want to help come to the bottom of this.

Thanks

Kendell Clark


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Hi,

What happens if you disable an add-on called “Enhanced Touch Gestures”?

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: Travis Siegel [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2017 5:45 PM
To: NVDA screen reader development <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [Nvda-devel] windows touch screen support in nvda

 

The only place I see the touch gestures not matching the number of fingers is when you touch and hold.  It seems to be one finger less than you've got on the screen, but since in general, touch and hold gestures are pretty rare in NVDA, this isn't really a problem.  The only issue I found with NVDA and it's gestures is that a four finger double tap turns on/off keyboard help, and last time I checked, this wasn't mentioned in the documentation.  Otherwise, no issues here with tracking the proper number of fingers or taps on the screen.

 

On 4/26/2017 4:17 AM, kendell clark wrote:

 

Hi all

I’m the guy who wrote in about the windows tablet I just bought. I’m so sorry for not responding to any messages that might have come my way, it wasn’t intentional I get a lot of messages a day and I have two email accounts, one from Hotmail and one gmail, and I’ve just now figured out how to link the two inboxes and thread the messages in the built in windows 10 mail app so I should now be able to see and reply to all messages easier and not get buried in the deluge. But anyway. I want to help improve nvda’s touch support, since while it does work it could definitely use some improving. There’s one bug in particular I’ve noticed. This happens on nvda version 2017.1. Steps to reproduce are as follos:

On any hardware with a touch screen, turn on nvda’s input mode with nvda+1. Then simply move around the screen, performing various flicks, taps, or just explore the screen. You’ll notice that nvda often gets the direction and number of fingers placed on the screen wrong. Now I’m not at all certain if this is nvda’s issue or an underlying windows one, I suspect windows, since nvda probably just reportswhat windows gives it. If it helps at all, I’m running windows 10 on a nextbook aeraes 10.1 inch tablet. The exact model number is nxm1012bcp. I cannot code, yet. I’m in the process of trying to learn python so I can help out both the nvda project and the orca screen reader for Linux. I’m a dual booter, I use both vinux and windows 10. So I cannot directly contribute code. But I do still want to help. Where should I start to help track down whatever the problem is? If anyone sent anything to me that already answered this, would you mind reposting? I’ll make sure to read and respond this time.

 

Thanks

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Re: windows touch screen support in nvda

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Ahh, good question.  If I turn off enhanced touch gestures, the touch and hold still reports the wrong number of fingers, but also, the four finger doubletap doesn't turn on/off the nvda keyboard help, so that would explain why it isn't listed in the documentation. :)  Hope this helps.



On 4/26/2017 8:49 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi,

What happens if you disable an add-on called “Enhanced Touch Gestures”?

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: Travis Siegel [[hidden email]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2017 5:45 PM
To: NVDA screen reader development [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [Nvda-devel] windows touch screen support in nvda

 

The only place I see the touch gestures not matching the number of fingers is when you touch and hold.  It seems to be one finger less than you've got on the screen, but since in general, touch and hold gestures are pretty rare in NVDA, this isn't really a problem.  The only issue I found with NVDA and it's gestures is that a four finger double tap turns on/off keyboard help, and last time I checked, this wasn't mentioned in the documentation.  Otherwise, no issues here with tracking the proper number of fingers or taps on the screen.

 

On 4/26/2017 4:17 AM, kendell clark wrote:

 

Hi all

I’m the guy who wrote in about the windows tablet I just bought. I’m so sorry for not responding to any messages that might have come my way, it wasn’t intentional I get a lot of messages a day and I have two email accounts, one from Hotmail and one gmail, and I’ve just now figured out how to link the two inboxes and thread the messages in the built in windows 10 mail app so I should now be able to see and reply to all messages easier and not get buried in the deluge. But anyway. I want to help improve nvda’s touch support, since while it does work it could definitely use some improving. There’s one bug in particular I’ve noticed. This happens on nvda version 2017.1. Steps to reproduce are as follos:

On any hardware with a touch screen, turn on nvda’s input mode with nvda+1. Then simply move around the screen, performing various flicks, taps, or just explore the screen. You’ll notice that nvda often gets the direction and number of fingers placed on the screen wrong. Now I’m not at all certain if this is nvda’s issue or an underlying windows one, I suspect windows, since nvda probably just reportswhat windows gives it. If it helps at all, I’m running windows 10 on a nextbook aeraes 10.1 inch tablet. The exact model number is nxm1012bcp. I cannot code, yet. I’m in the process of trying to learn python so I can help out both the nvda project and the orca screen reader for Linux. I’m a dual booter, I use both vinux and windows 10. So I cannot directly contribute code. But I do still want to help. Where should I start to help track down whatever the problem is? If anyone sent anything to me that already answered this, would you mind reposting? I’ll make sure to read and respond this time.

 

Thanks

Kendell Clark

 

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