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coffeekingms@hotmail.com
hi all

I've just installed joseph lee's fantastic windows 10 app essentials
addon, and it works great. I had to use the development build since I
use insider preview builds on this machine. My question is, are the
accessibility problems with windows 10's new "modern" apps a problem of
accessibility in windows, so I need to keep leaving feedback to
Microsoft through the hub that accessibility needs improvement, or an
issue of NVDA support? I'd like to help, whichever is the case, since my
new years resolution is to help all the prjects I'm involved in, both
sonar gnu linux, my own linux distribution I co develop and windows 10.
I can't code, but I can provide crash dumps, logs, whatever is needed. I
also have the visual studio apps installed for building NVDA if that's
needed, although I still haven't found a good accessible git program
other than tortoise git, and I couldn't figure that one out, so I still
need some work there.

Thanks

Kendell Clark



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Re: universal windows 10 apps

Joseph Lee
Hi,

It depends on a number of factors, including if it is specific to XAML, lack
of support for specific UIA features by NVDA and others. Generally, whenever
users encounter issues with app accessibility, I usually tell them to
contact app vendors (including Microsoft) first before asking me and others
to investigate further. In case app vendors does not respond to users, the
next step is for I or someone to write to app vendors in hopes that we can
establish a communication channel between developers (after all, NVDA
developers and code contributors (including I) are software engineers), and
if that doesn't work, we write workarounds if this is doable or tell users
to stay away from the app in question. I know that NV Access and some NVDA
developers had mixed success with Microsoft apps, while universal app
version of Facebook is considered an example of apps I and other developers
tell people to avoid for a while (unfortunately, this is still the case).
Ultimately, all parties involved (users, screen reader developers, app
developers including Microsoft) have shared responsibilities in making
universal apps accessible.
Cheers,
Joseph

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To: NVDA screen reader development <[hidden email]>
Subject: [Nvda-devel] universal windows 10 apps

hi all

I've just installed joseph lee's fantastic windows 10 app essentials addon,
and it works great. I had to use the development build since I use insider
preview builds on this machine. My question is, are the accessibility
problems with windows 10's new "modern" apps a problem of accessibility in
windows, so I need to keep leaving feedback to Microsoft through the hub
that accessibility needs improvement, or an issue of NVDA support? I'd like
to help, whichever is the case, since my new years resolution is to help all
the prjects I'm involved in, both sonar gnu linux, my own linux distribution
I co develop and windows 10.
I can't code, but I can provide crash dumps, logs, whatever is needed. I
also have the visual studio apps installed for building NVDA if that's
needed, although I still haven't found a good accessible git program other
than tortoise git, and I couldn't figure that one out, so I still need some
work there.

Thanks

Kendell Clark



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Re: universal windows 10 apps

Brian Gaff Lineone downstairs
Generally though, when it comes to other third party applications, often the
software company seem to have very well hidden contact forms or none at all.

Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Lee" <[hidden email]>
To: "'NVDA screen reader development'" <[hidden email]>
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 5:09 AM
Subject: Re: [Nvda-devel] universal windows 10 apps


> Hi,
>
> It depends on a number of factors, including if it is specific to XAML,
> lack
> of support for specific UIA features by NVDA and others. Generally,
> whenever
> users encounter issues with app accessibility, I usually tell them to
> contact app vendors (including Microsoft) first before asking me and
> others
> to investigate further. In case app vendors does not respond to users, the
> next step is for I or someone to write to app vendors in hopes that we can
> establish a communication channel between developers (after all, NVDA
> developers and code contributors (including I) are software engineers),
> and
> if that doesn't work, we write workarounds if this is doable or tell users
> to stay away from the app in question. I know that NV Access and some NVDA
> developers had mixed success with Microsoft apps, while universal app
> version of Facebook is considered an example of apps I and other
> developers
> tell people to avoid for a while (unfortunately, this is still the case).
> Ultimately, all parties involved (users, screen reader developers, app
> developers including Microsoft) have shared responsibilities in making
> universal apps accessible.
> Cheers,
> Joseph
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]]
> Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2017 10:20 AM
> To: NVDA screen reader development <[hidden email]>
> Subject: [Nvda-devel] universal windows 10 apps
>
> hi all
>
> I've just installed joseph lee's fantastic windows 10 app essentials
> addon,
> and it works great. I had to use the development build since I use insider
> preview builds on this machine. My question is, are the accessibility
> problems with windows 10's new "modern" apps a problem of accessibility in
> windows, so I need to keep leaving feedback to Microsoft through the hub
> that accessibility needs improvement, or an issue of NVDA support? I'd
> like
> to help, whichever is the case, since my new years resolution is to help
> all
> the prjects I'm involved in, both sonar gnu linux, my own linux
> distribution
> I co develop and windows 10.
> I can't code, but I can provide crash dumps, logs, whatever is needed. I
> also have the visual studio apps installed for building NVDA if that's
> needed, although I still haven't found a good accessible git program other
> than tortoise git, and I couldn't figure that one out, so I still need
> some
> work there.
>
> Thanks
>
> Kendell Clark
>
>
>
> --
> Without coffee, life is not worth living. Anonymous
>
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> --
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> Xeon
> Phi processor-based developer platforms.
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