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David Hilton
hello, my name is David Hilton, and I have been a user of NVDA for 6
years. I am doing some work for a company, helping them make there
webcite accessable and I was wondering if any one knose where the NVDA
speech viewer is located in source. I also want to know where the
dependencies are located for NVDA eg, import ui, import
global-plugins. Finally, I would like to know where the temporary
dictionary file is stord when the file is active (used, run) any
assistance you could provide would bee mutch apriciated. Thankyou
foryour time and concideration. David Hilton

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Re: help with speech viewer and dependencies

James Scholes
David Hilton wrote:
> I was wondering if any one knose where the NVDA speech viewer is
> located in source.

If you have the NVDA source code, you'll find the code for the speech
viewer in source\speechViewer.py.  If you don't have the source code,
you need to download it first - see https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda for
instructions.

> I also want to know where the dependencies are located for NVDA eg,
> import ui, import global-plugins.

In the source directory, as above.

> Finally, I would like to know where the temporary dictionary file is
> stord when the file is active (used, run) any assistance you could
> provide would bee mutch apriciated.

Are you refering to speech dictionaries?  They're stored in your NVDA
configuration folder in a directory called speechDicts, not in temporary
files.  NVDA will read tehm from this directory at startup and store
them in memory.

To be honest, I'm unclear about how knowing all of this will help you or
your client improve the accessibility of a website.
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Re: help with speech viewer and dependencies

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Is there an other way i could look at the speech viewer with out using source? If not then i will be willling to download it. Yes i am talking about the pronounceation dictionaries. After putting a pattern and replacement in to the temporary dictionary, the file is not found in the user Configuración with the default and the voice files. As far as making a site more accessible, this wont initially help a company make there site accessible, what my intent is to create an add on simolar to the clip copy add on by tylor spicy, and then merge it with the append text to clipboard add on, and finally have a way that it can take the copied text and past it in to a file. I don't mind pasting manually, but if this can bee automated i would like that. The purpose of making an add on like this is so i can give the user experience team the same information as the speech viewer, but copied in to a file to email for there convinianced. Emviado  dsde mi iPhone

> El nov. 4, 2016, a las 4:51 PM, James Scholes <[hidden email]> escribió:
>
> David Hilton wrote:
>> I was wondering if any one knose where the NVDA speech viewer is
>> located in source.
>
> If you have the NVDA source code, you'll find the code for the speech
> viewer in source\speechViewer.py.  If you don't have the source code,
> you need to download it first - see https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda for
> instructions.
>
>> I also want to know where the dependencies are located for NVDA eg,
>> import ui, import global-plugins.
>
> In the source directory, as above.
>
>> Finally, I would like to know where the temporary dictionary file is
>> stord when the file is active (used, run) any assistance you could
>> provide would bee mutch apriciated.
>
> Are you refering to speech dictionaries?  They're stored in your NVDA
> configuration folder in a directory called speechDicts, not in temporary
> files.  NVDA will read tehm from this directory at startup and store
> them in memory.
>
> To be honest, I'm unclear about how knowing all of this will help you or
> your client improve the accessibility of a website.
> --
> James Scholes
> http://twitter.com/JamesScholes
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Re: help with speech viewer and dependencies

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Enviado desde mi iPhone

> El nov. 4, 2016, a las 6:35 PM, David Hilton <[hidden email]> escribió:
>
> Is there an other way i could look at the speech viewer with out using source? If not then i will be willling to download it. Yes i am talking about the pronounceation dictionaries. After putting a pattern and replacement in to the temporary dictionary, the file is not found in the user Configuración with the default and the voice files. As far as making a site more accessible, this wont initially help a company make there site accessible, what my intent is to create an add on simolar to the clip copy add on by tylor spicy, and then merge it with the append text to clipboard add on, and finally have a way that it can take the copied text and past it in to a file. I don't mind pasting manually, but if this can bee automated i would like that. The purpose of making an add on like this is so i can give the user experience team the same information as the speech viewer, but copied in to a file to email for there convinianced. Emviado  dsde mi iPhone
>
>> El nov. 4, 2016, a las 4:51 PM, James Scholes <[hidden email]> escribió:
>>
>> David Hilton wrote:
>>> I was wondering if any one knose where the NVDA speech viewer is
>>> located in source.
>>
>> If you have the NVDA source code, you'll find the code for the speech
>> viewer in source\speechViewer.py.  If you don't have the source code,
>> you need to download it first - see https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda for
>> instructions.
>>
>>> I also want to know where the dependencies are located for NVDA eg,
>>> import ui, import global-plugins.
>>
>> In the source directory, as above.
>>
>>> Finally, I would like to know where the temporary dictionary file is
>>> stord when the file is active (used, run) any assistance you could
>>> provide would bee mutch apriciated.
>>
>> Are you refering to speech dictionaries?  They're stored in your NVDA
>> configuration folder in a directory called speechDicts, not in temporary
>> files.  NVDA will read tehm from this directory at startup and store
>> them in memory.
>>
>> To be honest, I'm unclear about how knowing all of this will help you or
>> your client improve the accessibility of a website.
>> --
>> James Scholes
>> http://twitter.com/JamesScholes
>>
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Re: help with speech viewer and dependencies

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> El nov. 4, 2016, a las 4:51 PM, James Scholes <[hidden email]> escribió:
>
> David Hilton wrote:
>> I was wondering if any one knose where the NVDA speech viewer is
>> located in source.
>
> If you have the NVDA source code, you'll find the code for the speech
> viewer in source\speechViewer.py.  If you don't have the source code,
> you need to download it first - see https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda for
> instructions.
>
>> I also want to know where the dependencies are located for NVDA eg,
>> import ui, import global-plugins.
>
> In the source directory, as above.
>
>> Finally, I would like to know where the temporary dictionary file is
>> stord when the file is active (used, run) any assistance you could
>> provide would bee mutch apriciated.
>
> Are you refering to speech dictionaries?  They're stored in your NVDA
> configuration folder in a directory called speechDicts, not in temporary
> files.  NVDA will read tehm from this directory at startup and store
> them in memory.
>
> To be honest, I'm unclear about how knowing all of this will help you or
> your client improve the accessibility of a website.
> --
> James Scholes
> http://twitter.com/JamesScholes
>
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Is there an other way i could look at the speech viewer with out using source? If not then i will be willling to download it. Yes i am talking about the pronounceation dictionaries. After putting a pattern and replacement in to the temporary dictionary, the file is not found in the user Configuración with the default and the voice files. As far as making a site more accessible, this wont initially help a company make there site accessible, what my intent is to create an add on simolar to the clip copy add on by tylor spicy, and then merge it with the append text to clipboard add on, and finally have a way that it can take the copied text and past it in to a file. I don't mind pasting manually, but if this can bee automated i would like that. The purpose of making an add on like this is so i can give the user experience team the same information as the speech viewer, but copied in to a file to email for there convinianced. Emviado  dsde mi iPhone

> El nov. 4, 2016, a las 4:51 PM, James Scholes <[hidden email]> escribió:
>
> David Hilton wrote:
>> I was wondering if any one knose where the NVDA speech viewer is
>> located in source.
>
> If you have the NVDA source code, you'll find the code for the speech
> viewer in source\speechViewer.py.  If you don't have the source code,
> you need to download it first - see https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda for
> instructions.
>
>> I also want to know where the dependencies are located for NVDA eg,
>> import ui, import global-plugins.
>
> In the source directory, as above.
>
>> Finally, I would like to know where the temporary dictionary file is
>> stord when the file is active (used, run) any assistance you could
>> provide would bee mutch apriciated.
>
> Are you refering to speech dictionaries?  They're stored in your NVDA
> configuration folder in a directory called speechDicts, not in temporary
> files.  NVDA will read tehm from this directory at startup and store
> them in memory.
>
> To be honest, I'm unclear about how knowing all of this will help you or
> your client improve the accessibility of a website.
> --
> James Scholes
> http://twitter.com/JamesScholes
>
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Is there an other way i could look at the speech viewer with out using source? If not then i will be willling to download it. Yes i am talking about the pronounceation dictionaries. After putting a pattern and replacement in to the temporary dictionary, the file is not found in the user Configuración with the default and the voice files. As far as making a site more accessible, this wont initially help a company make there site accessible, what my intent is to create an add on simolar to the clip copy add on by tylor spicy, and then merge it with the append text to clipboard add on, and finally have a way that it can take the copied text and past it in to a file. I don't mind pasting manually, but if this can bee automated i would like that. The purpose of making an add on like this is so i can give the user experience team the same information as the speech viewer, but copied in to a file to email for there convinianced. Emviado  dsde mi iPhone

> El nov. 4, 2016, a las 4:51 PM, James Scholes <[hidden email]> escribió:
>
> David Hilton wrote:
>> I was wondering if any one knose where the NVDA speech viewer is
>> located in source.
>
> If you have the NVDA source code, you'll find the code for the speech
> viewer in source\speechViewer.py.  If you don't have the source code,
> you need to download it first - see https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda for
> instructions.
>
>> I also want to know where the dependencies are located for NVDA eg,
>> import ui, import global-plugins.
>
> In the source directory, as above.
>
>> Finally, I would like to know where the temporary dictionary file is
>> stord when the file is active (used, run) any assistance you could
>> provide would bee mutch apriciated.
>
> Are you refering to speech dictionaries?  They're stored in your NVDA
> configuration folder in a directory called speechDicts, not in temporary
> files.  NVDA will read tehm from this directory at startup and store
> them in memory.
>
> To be honest, I'm unclear about how knowing all of this will help you or
> your client improve the accessibility of a website.
> --
> James Scholes
> http://twitter.com/JamesScholes
>
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Re: help with speech viewer and dependencies

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Enviado desde mi iPhone

Inicio del mensaje reenviado:

De: David Hilton <[hidden email]>
Fecha: 4 de noviembre de 2016, 6:35:30 PM MDT
Para: NVDA screen reader development <[hidden email]>
Asunto: Re: [Nvda-devel] help with speech viewer and dependencies

Is there an other way i could look at the speech viewer with out using source? If not then i will be willling to download it. Yes i am talking about the pronounceation dictionaries. After putting a pattern and replacement in to the temporary dictionary, the file is not found in the user Configuración with the default and the voice files. As far as making a site more accessible, this wont initially help a company make there site accessible, what my intent is to create an add on simolar to the clip copy add on by tylor spicy, and then merge it with the append text to clipboard add on, and finally have a way that it can take the copied text and past it in to a file. I don't mind pasting manually, but if this can bee automated i would like that. The purpose of making an add on like this is so i can give the user experience team the same information as the speech viewer, but copied in to a file to email for there convinianced. Emviado  dsde mi iPhone

El nov. 4, 2016, a las 4:51 PM, James Scholes <[hidden email]> escribió:

David Hilton wrote:
I was wondering if any one knose where the NVDA speech viewer is 
located in source.

If you have the NVDA source code, you'll find the code for the speech
viewer in source\speechViewer.py.  If you don't have the source code,
you need to download it first - see https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda for
instructions.

I also want to know where the dependencies are located for NVDA eg, 
import ui, import global-plugins.

In the source directory, as above.

Finally, I would like to know where the temporary dictionary file is
stord when the file is active (used, run) any assistance you could
provide would bee mutch apriciated.

Are you refering to speech dictionaries?  They're stored in your NVDA
configuration folder in a directory called speechDicts, not in temporary
files.  NVDA will read tehm from this directory at startup and store
them in memory.

To be honest, I'm unclear about how knowing all of this will help you or
your client improve the accessibility of a website.
-- 
James Scholes
http://twitter.com/JamesScholes

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El nov. 4, 2016, a las 4:51 PM, James Scholes <[hidden email]> escribió:

David Hilton wrote:
I was wondering if any one knose where the NVDA speech viewer is
located in source.

If you have the NVDA source code, you'll find the code for the speech
viewer in source\speechViewer.py.  If you don't have the source code,
you need to download it first - see https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda for
instructions.

I also want to know where the dependencies are located for NVDA eg,
import ui, import global-plugins.

In the source directory, as above.

Finally, I would like to know where the temporary dictionary file is
stord when the file is active (used, run) any assistance you could
provide would bee mutch apriciated.

Are you refering to speech dictionaries?  They're stored in your NVDA
configuration folder in a directory called speechDicts, not in temporary
files.  NVDA will read tehm from this directory at startup and store
them in memory.

To be honest, I'm unclear about how knowing all of this will help you or
your client improve the accessibility of a website.
--
James Scholes
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Re: help with speech viewer and dependencies

Joseph Lee
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Hi David,
Ah, no need to write any code at all: speech viewer and speech dictionary
are two completely different features, and both doesn't require you to run
NVDA from source code. Also, you don't have to write an add-on to copy
speech viewer contents - in recent NVDA builds, you can open speech viewer,
go to the speech output area, copy all and paste it into documents.
The temporary dictionary is a volatile map. In other words, it is "saved" to
RAM, so no file will be created (unless I'm understanding the module wrong).
Cheers,
Joseph P.S. Your message came through multiple times.

-----Original Message-----
From: David Hilton [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Friday, November 4, 2016 5:41 PM
To: NVDA screen reader development <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [Nvda-devel] help with speech viewer and dependencies

Is there an other way i could look at the speech viewer with out using
source? If not then i will be willling to download it. Yes i am talking
about the pronounceation dictionaries. After putting a pattern and
replacement in to the temporary dictionary, the file is not found in the
user Configuración with the default and the voice files. As far as making a
site more accessible, this wont initially help a company make there site
accessible, what my intent is to create an add on simolar to the clip copy
add on by tylor spicy, and then merge it with the append text to clipboard
add on, and finally have a way that it can take the copied text and past it
in to a file. I don't mind pasting manually, but if this can bee automated i
would like that. The purpose of making an add on like this is so i can give
the user experience team the same information as the speech viewer, but
copied in to a file to email for there convinianced. Emviado  dsde mi iPhone

> El nov. 4, 2016, a las 4:51 PM, James Scholes <[hidden email]>
escribió:

>
> David Hilton wrote:
>> I was wondering if any one knose where the NVDA speech viewer is
>> located in source.
>
> If you have the NVDA source code, you'll find the code for the speech
> viewer in source\speechViewer.py.  If you don't have the source code,
> you need to download it first - see https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda 
> for instructions.
>
>> I also want to know where the dependencies are located for NVDA eg,
>> import ui, import global-plugins.
>
> In the source directory, as above.
>
>> Finally, I would like to know where the temporary dictionary file is
>> stord when the file is active (used, run) any assistance you could
>> provide would bee mutch apriciated.
>
> Are you refering to speech dictionaries?  They're stored in your NVDA
> configuration folder in a directory called speechDicts, not in
> temporary files.  NVDA will read tehm from this directory at startup
> and store them in memory.
>
> To be honest, I'm unclear about how knowing all of this will help you
> or your client improve the accessibility of a website.
> --
> James Scholes
> http://twitter.com/JamesScholes
>
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Re: help with speech viewer and dependencies

David Hilton
The only way I see to enter into the speech viewer window, is to use the mouse and click in the speech viewer window, which will place your keyboard cursor in the speech you were window where you can then copy the text. If I am not mistaken, the temporary dictionary used to be contained in a file. But I would imagine this would have changed in later versions. As I have not looked into that since version 2012. Also, I am going to be doing some recording using screen capture software while I will be using this beach viewer. However, I do not want to speech if you were to be

Visible during recording, and the only way I know to do that is to turn the speech you were off. Enviado desde mi iPhone

> El nov. 4, 2016, a las 6:50 PM, Joseph Lee <[hidden email]> escribió:
>
> Hi David,
> Ah, no need to write any code at all: speech viewer and speech dictionary
> are two completely different features, and both doesn't require you to run
> NVDA from source code. Also, you don't have to write an add-on to copy
> speech viewer contents - in recent NVDA builds, you can open speech viewer,
> go to the speech output area, copy all and paste it into documents.
> The temporary dictionary is a volatile map. In other words, it is "saved" to
> RAM, so no file will be created (unless I'm understanding the module wrong).
> Cheers,
> Joseph P.S. Your message came through multiple times.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Hilton [mailto:[hidden email]]
> Sent: Friday, November 4, 2016 5:41 PM
> To: NVDA screen reader development <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [Nvda-devel] help with speech viewer and dependencies
>
> Is there an other way i could look at the speech viewer with out using
> source? If not then i will be willling to download it. Yes i am talking
> about the pronounceation dictionaries. After putting a pattern and
> replacement in to the temporary dictionary, the file is not found in the
> user Configuración with the default and the voice files. As far as making a
> site more accessible, this wont initially help a company make there site
> accessible, what my intent is to create an add on simolar to the clip copy
> add on by tylor spicy, and then merge it with the append text to clipboard
> add on, and finally have a way that it can take the copied text and past it
> in to a file. I don't mind pasting manually, but if this can bee automated i
> would like that. The purpose of making an add on like this is so i can give
> the user experience team the same information as the speech viewer, but
> copied in to a file to email for there convinianced. Emviado  dsde mi iPhone
>
>> El nov. 4, 2016, a las 4:51 PM, James Scholes <[hidden email]>
> escribió:
>>
>> David Hilton wrote:
>>> I was wondering if any one knose where the NVDA speech viewer is
>>> located in source.
>>
>> If you have the NVDA source code, you'll find the code for the speech
>> viewer in source\speechViewer.py.  If you don't have the source code,
>> you need to download it first - see https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda 
>> for instructions.
>>
>>> I also want to know where the dependencies are located for NVDA eg,
>>> import ui, import global-plugins.
>>
>> In the source directory, as above.
>>
>>> Finally, I would like to know where the temporary dictionary file is
>>> stord when the file is active (used, run) any assistance you could
>>> provide would bee mutch apriciated.
>>
>> Are you refering to speech dictionaries?  They're stored in your NVDA
>> configuration folder in a directory called speechDicts, not in
>> temporary files.  NVDA will read tehm from this directory at startup
>> and store them in memory.
>>
>> To be honest, I'm unclear about how knowing all of this will help you
>> or your client improve the accessibility of a website.
>> --
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>> http://twitter.com/JamesScholes
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Re: help with speech viewer and dependencies

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Correct: the temporary dictionary is just that: temporary. It never gets saved to disk. If you want it saved, use the default dictionary.

Sent from a mobile device

> On 5 Nov. 2016, at 10:50 am, Joseph Lee <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Hi David,
> Ah, no need to write any code at all: speech viewer and speech dictionary
> are two completely different features, and both doesn't require you to run
> NVDA from source code. Also, you don't have to write an add-on to copy
> speech viewer contents - in recent NVDA builds, you can open speech viewer,
> go to the speech output area, copy all and paste it into documents.
> The temporary dictionary is a volatile map. In other words, it is "saved" to
> RAM, so no file will be created (unless I'm understanding the module wrong).
> Cheers,
> Joseph P.S. Your message came through multiple times.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Hilton [mailto:[hidden email]]
> Sent: Friday, November 4, 2016 5:41 PM
> To: NVDA screen reader development <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [Nvda-devel] help with speech viewer and dependencies
>
> Is there an other way i could look at the speech viewer with out using
> source? If not then i will be willling to download it. Yes i am talking
> about the pronounceation dictionaries. After putting a pattern and
> replacement in to the temporary dictionary, the file is not found in the
> user Configuración with the default and the voice files. As far as making a
> site more accessible, this wont initially help a company make there site
> accessible, what my intent is to create an add on simolar to the clip copy
> add on by tylor spicy, and then merge it with the append text to clipboard
> add on, and finally have a way that it can take the copied text and past it
> in to a file. I don't mind pasting manually, but if this can bee automated i
> would like that. The purpose of making an add on like this is so i can give
> the user experience team the same information as the speech viewer, but
> copied in to a file to email for there convinianced. Emviado  dsde mi iPhone
>
>> El nov. 4, 2016, a las 4:51 PM, James Scholes <[hidden email]>
> escribió:
>>
>> David Hilton wrote:
>>> I was wondering if any one knose where the NVDA speech viewer is
>>> located in source.
>>
>> If you have the NVDA source code, you'll find the code for the speech
>> viewer in source\speechViewer.py.  If you don't have the source code,
>> you need to download it first - see https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda 
>> for instructions.
>>
>>> I also want to know where the dependencies are located for NVDA eg,
>>> import ui, import global-plugins.
>>
>> In the source directory, as above.
>>
>>> Finally, I would like to know where the temporary dictionary file is
>>> stord when the file is active (used, run) any assistance you could
>>> provide would bee mutch apriciated.
>>
>> Are you refering to speech dictionaries?  They're stored in your NVDA
>> configuration folder in a directory called speechDicts, not in
>> temporary files.  NVDA will read tehm from this directory at startup
>> and store them in memory.
>>
>> To be honest, I'm unclear about how knowing all of this will help you
>> or your client improve the accessibility of a website.
>> --
>> James Scholes
>> http://twitter.com/JamesScholes
>>
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Re: help with speech viewer and dependencies

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Because I am thinking of having the speech fewer be invisible during recording, but still logging speech information. I was thinking of patterning my ad on, if I need to make one. After Tyler spy V's clip copy add-on, as it does something similar in capturing what text has been sent to NVDA, however it does not capture what to text NVDA is reading. So I was thinking if there was anything else that the dependencies captured that the ad on ignored, I could have that be included.

Enviado desde mi iPhone

> El nov. 4, 2016, a las 7:37 PM, James Teh <[hidden email]> escribió:
>
> Correct: the temporary dictionary is just that: temporary. It never gets saved to disk. If you want it saved, use the default dictionary.
>
> Sent from a mobile device
>
>> On 5 Nov. 2016, at 10:50 am, Joseph Lee <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> Hi David,
>> Ah, no need to write any code at all: speech viewer and speech dictionary
>> are two completely different features, and both doesn't require you to run
>> NVDA from source code. Also, you don't have to write an add-on to copy
>> speech viewer contents - in recent NVDA builds, you can open speech viewer,
>> go to the speech output area, copy all and paste it into documents.
>> The temporary dictionary is a volatile map. In other words, it is "saved" to
>> RAM, so no file will be created (unless I'm understanding the module wrong).
>> Cheers,
>> Joseph P.S. Your message came through multiple times.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: David Hilton [mailto:[hidden email]]
>> Sent: Friday, November 4, 2016 5:41 PM
>> To: NVDA screen reader development <[hidden email]>
>> Subject: Re: [Nvda-devel] help with speech viewer and dependencies
>>
>> Is there an other way i could look at the speech viewer with out using
>> source? If not then i will be willling to download it. Yes i am talking
>> about the pronounceation dictionaries. After putting a pattern and
>> replacement in to the temporary dictionary, the file is not found in the
>> user Configuración with the default and the voice files. As far as making a
>> site more accessible, this wont initially help a company make there site
>> accessible, what my intent is to create an add on simolar to the clip copy
>> add on by tylor spicy, and then merge it with the append text to clipboard
>> add on, and finally have a way that it can take the copied text and past it
>> in to a file. I don't mind pasting manually, but if this can bee automated i
>> would like that. The purpose of making an add on like this is so i can give
>> the user experience team the same information as the speech viewer, but
>> copied in to a file to email for there convinianced. Emviado  dsde mi iPhone
>>
>>> El nov. 4, 2016, a las 4:51 PM, James Scholes <[hidden email]>
>> escribió:
>>>
>>> David Hilton wrote:
>>>> I was wondering if any one knose where the NVDA speech viewer is
>>>> located in source.
>>>
>>> If you have the NVDA source code, you'll find the code for the speech
>>> viewer in source\speechViewer.py.  If you don't have the source code,
>>> you need to download it first - see https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda 
>>> for instructions.
>>>
>>>> I also want to know where the dependencies are located for NVDA eg,
>>>> import ui, import global-plugins.
>>>
>>> In the source directory, as above.
>>>
>>>> Finally, I would like to know where the temporary dictionary file is
>>>> stord when the file is active (used, run) any assistance you could
>>>> provide would bee mutch apriciated.
>>>
>>> Are you refering to speech dictionaries?  They're stored in your NVDA
>>> configuration folder in a directory called speechDicts, not in
>>> temporary files.  NVDA will read tehm from this directory at startup
>>> and store them in memory.
>>>
>>> To be honest, I'm unclear about how knowing all of this will help you
>>> or your client improve the accessibility of a website.
>>> --
>>> James Scholes
>>> http://twitter.com/JamesScholes
>>>
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Re: help with speech viewer and dependencies

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This is different in 2016.4 you can alt+tab to it.


On 11/4/2016 7:37 PM, David Hilton wrote:
The only way I see to enter into the speech viewer window, is to use the mouse and click in the speech viewer window, which will place your keyboard cursor in the speech you were window where you can then copy the text. If I am not mistaken, the temporary dictionary used to be contained in a file. But I would imagine this would have changed in later versions. As I have not looked into that since version 2012. Also, I am going to be doing some recording using screen capture software while I will be using this beach viewer. However, I do not want to speech if you were to be

Visible during recording, and the only way I know to do that is to turn the speech you were off. Enviado desde mi iPhone

El nov. 4, 2016, a las 6:50 PM, Joseph Lee [hidden email] escribió:

Hi David,
Ah, no need to write any code at all: speech viewer and speech dictionary
are two completely different features, and both doesn't require you to run
NVDA from source code. Also, you don't have to write an add-on to copy
speech viewer contents - in recent NVDA builds, you can open speech viewer,
go to the speech output area, copy all and paste it into documents.
The temporary dictionary is a volatile map. In other words, it is "saved" to
RAM, so no file will be created (unless I'm understanding the module wrong).
Cheers,
Joseph P.S. Your message came through multiple times.

-----Original Message-----
From: David Hilton [[hidden email]] 
Sent: Friday, November 4, 2016 5:41 PM
To: NVDA screen reader development [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [Nvda-devel] help with speech viewer and dependencies

Is there an other way i could look at the speech viewer with out using
source? If not then i will be willling to download it. Yes i am talking
about the pronounceation dictionaries. After putting a pattern and
replacement in to the temporary dictionary, the file is not found in the
user Configuración with the default and the voice files. As far as making a
site more accessible, this wont initially help a company make there site
accessible, what my intent is to create an add on simolar to the clip copy
add on by tylor spicy, and then merge it with the append text to clipboard
add on, and finally have a way that it can take the copied text and past it
in to a file. I don't mind pasting manually, but if this can bee automated i
would like that. The purpose of making an add on like this is so i can give
the user experience team the same information as the speech viewer, but
copied in to a file to email for there convinianced. Emviado  dsde mi iPhone

El nov. 4, 2016, a las 4:51 PM, James Scholes [hidden email]
escribió:
David Hilton wrote:
I was wondering if any one knose where the NVDA speech viewer is 
located in source.
If you have the NVDA source code, you'll find the code for the speech 
viewer in source\speechViewer.py.  If you don't have the source code, 
you need to download it first - see https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda 
for instructions.

I also want to know where the dependencies are located for NVDA eg, 
import ui, import global-plugins.
In the source directory, as above.

Finally, I would like to know where the temporary dictionary file is 
stord when the file is active (used, run) any assistance you could 
provide would bee mutch apriciated.
Are you refering to speech dictionaries?  They're stored in your NVDA 
configuration folder in a directory called speechDicts, not in 
temporary files.  NVDA will read tehm from this directory at startup 
and store them in memory.

To be honest, I'm unclear about how knowing all of this will help you 
or your client improve the accessibility of a website.
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Re: help with speech viewer and dependencies

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Thanks i will check my version. I would still like the speech viewer to be invisible, but if this is not possible, then minimized? Is it possible to minimize the speech viewer using the keyboard, or mouse? I would prefer the keybord, but i can use the mouse if i have to.

Enviado desde mi iPhone

El nov. 4, 2016, a las 9:17 PM, derek riemer <[hidden email]> escribió:

This is different in 2016.4 you can alt+tab to it.


On 11/4/2016 7:37 PM, David Hilton wrote:
The only way I see to enter into the speech viewer window, is to use the mouse and click in the speech viewer window, which will place your keyboard cursor in the speech you were window where you can then copy the text. If I am not mistaken, the temporary dictionary used to be contained in a file. But I would imagine this would have changed in later versions. As I have not looked into that since version 2012. Also, I am going to be doing some recording using screen capture software while I will be using this beach viewer. However, I do not want to speech if you were to be

Visible during recording, and the only way I know to do that is to turn the speech you were off. Enviado desde mi iPhone

El nov. 4, 2016, a las 6:50 PM, Joseph Lee [hidden email] escribió:

Hi David,
Ah, no need to write any code at all: speech viewer and speech dictionary
are two completely different features, and both doesn't require you to run
NVDA from source code. Also, you don't have to write an add-on to copy
speech viewer contents - in recent NVDA builds, you can open speech viewer,
go to the speech output area, copy all and paste it into documents.
The temporary dictionary is a volatile map. In other words, it is "saved" to
RAM, so no file will be created (unless I'm understanding the module wrong).
Cheers,
Joseph P.S. Your message came through multiple times.

-----Original Message-----
From: David Hilton [[hidden email]] 
Sent: Friday, November 4, 2016 5:41 PM
To: NVDA screen reader development [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [Nvda-devel] help with speech viewer and dependencies

Is there an other way i could look at the speech viewer with out using
source? If not then i will be willling to download it. Yes i am talking
about the pronounceation dictionaries. After putting a pattern and
replacement in to the temporary dictionary, the file is not found in the
user Configuración with the default and the voice files. As far as making a
site more accessible, this wont initially help a company make there site
accessible, what my intent is to create an add on simolar to the clip copy
add on by tylor spicy, and then merge it with the append text to clipboard
add on, and finally have a way that it can take the copied text and past it
in to a file. I don't mind pasting manually, but if this can bee automated i
would like that. The purpose of making an add on like this is so i can give
the user experience team the same information as the speech viewer, but
copied in to a file to email for there convinianced. Emviado  dsde mi iPhone

El nov. 4, 2016, a las 4:51 PM, James Scholes [hidden email]
escribió:
David Hilton wrote:
I was wondering if any one knose where the NVDA speech viewer is 
located in source.
If you have the NVDA source code, you'll find the code for the speech 
viewer in source\speechViewer.py.  If you don't have the source code, 
you need to download it first - see https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda 
for instructions.

I also want to know where the dependencies are located for NVDA eg, 
import ui, import global-plugins.
In the source directory, as above.

Finally, I would like to know where the temporary dictionary file is 
stord when the file is active (used, run) any assistance you could 
provide would bee mutch apriciated.
Are you refering to speech dictionaries?  They're stored in your NVDA 
configuration folder in a directory called speechDicts, not in 
temporary files.  NVDA will read tehm from this directory at startup 
and store them in memory.

To be honest, I'm unclear about how knowing all of this will help you 
or your client improve the accessibility of a website.
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Re: help with speech viewer and dependencies

derek riemer

I would raise an ticket with nvda to make the speech viewer invisible if user asks it to be, however at this stage, then maybe having an option to write speech viewer to some user chosen file is a good idea.


On 11/4/2016 10:33 PM, David Hilton wrote:
Thanks i will check my version. I would still like the speech viewer to be invisible, but if this is not possible, then minimized? Is it possible to minimize the speech viewer using the keyboard, or mouse? I would prefer the keybord, but i can use the mouse if i have to.

Enviado desde mi iPhone

El nov. 4, 2016, a las 9:17 PM, derek riemer <[hidden email]> escribió:

This is different in 2016.4 you can alt+tab to it.


On 11/4/2016 7:37 PM, David Hilton wrote:
The only way I see to enter into the speech viewer window, is to use the mouse and click in the speech viewer window, which will place your keyboard cursor in the speech you were window where you can then copy the text. If I am not mistaken, the temporary dictionary used to be contained in a file. But I would imagine this would have changed in later versions. As I have not looked into that since version 2012. Also, I am going to be doing some recording using screen capture software while I will be using this beach viewer. However, I do not want to speech if you were to be

Visible during recording, and the only way I know to do that is to turn the speech you were off. Enviado desde mi iPhone

El nov. 4, 2016, a las 6:50 PM, Joseph Lee [hidden email] escribió:

Hi David,
Ah, no need to write any code at all: speech viewer and speech dictionary
are two completely different features, and both doesn't require you to run
NVDA from source code. Also, you don't have to write an add-on to copy
speech viewer contents - in recent NVDA builds, you can open speech viewer,
go to the speech output area, copy all and paste it into documents.
The temporary dictionary is a volatile map. In other words, it is "saved" to
RAM, so no file will be created (unless I'm understanding the module wrong).
Cheers,
Joseph P.S. Your message came through multiple times.

-----Original Message-----
From: David Hilton [[hidden email]] 
Sent: Friday, November 4, 2016 5:41 PM
To: NVDA screen reader development [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [Nvda-devel] help with speech viewer and dependencies

Is there an other way i could look at the speech viewer with out using
source? If not then i will be willling to download it. Yes i am talking
about the pronounceation dictionaries. After putting a pattern and
replacement in to the temporary dictionary, the file is not found in the
user Configuración with the default and the voice files. As far as making a
site more accessible, this wont initially help a company make there site
accessible, what my intent is to create an add on simolar to the clip copy
add on by tylor spicy, and then merge it with the append text to clipboard
add on, and finally have a way that it can take the copied text and past it
in to a file. I don't mind pasting manually, but if this can bee automated i
would like that. The purpose of making an add on like this is so i can give
the user experience team the same information as the speech viewer, but
copied in to a file to email for there convinianced. Emviado  dsde mi iPhone

El nov. 4, 2016, a las 4:51 PM, James Scholes [hidden email]
escribió:
David Hilton wrote:
I was wondering if any one knose where the NVDA speech viewer is 
located in source.
If you have the NVDA source code, you'll find the code for the speech 
viewer in source\speechViewer.py.  If you don't have the source code, 
you need to download it first - see https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda 
for instructions.

I also want to know where the dependencies are located for NVDA eg, 
import ui, import global-plugins.
In the source directory, as above.

Finally, I would like to know where the temporary dictionary file is 
stord when the file is active (used, run) any assistance you could 
provide would bee mutch apriciated.
Are you refering to speech dictionaries?  They're stored in your NVDA 
configuration folder in a directory called speechDicts, not in 
temporary files.  NVDA will read tehm from this directory at startup 
and store them in memory.

To be honest, I'm unclear about how knowing all of this will help you 
or your client improve the accessibility of a website.
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Re: help with speech viewer and dependencies

Joseph Lee

Hi,

Would the log file (with level set to input/output) serve this purpose with unneeded bits removed?

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: derek riemer [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Saturday, November 5, 2016 2:57 AM
To: NVDA screen reader development
Subject: Re: [Nvda-devel] help with speech viewer and dependencies

 

I would raise an ticket with nvda to make the speech viewer invisible if user asks it to be, however at this stage, then maybe having an option to write speech viewer to some user chosen file is a good idea.

 

On 11/4/2016 10:33 PM, David Hilton wrote:

Thanks i will check my version. I would still like the speech viewer to be invisible, but if this is not possible, then minimized? Is it possible to minimize the speech viewer using the keyboard, or mouse? I would prefer the keybord, but i can use the mouse if i have to.

Enviado desde mi iPhone


El nov. 4, 2016, a las 9:17 PM, derek riemer <[hidden email]> escribió:

This is different in 2016.4 you can alt+tab to it.

 

On 11/4/2016 7:37 PM, David Hilton wrote:

The only way I see to enter into the speech viewer window, is to use the mouse and click in the speech viewer window, which will place your keyboard cursor in the speech you were window where you can then copy the text. If I am not mistaken, the temporary dictionary used to be contained in a file. But I would imagine this would have changed in later versions. As I have not looked into that since version 2012. Also, I am going to be doing some recording using screen capture software while I will be using this beach viewer. However, I do not want to speech if you were to be
 
Visible during recording, and the only way I know to do that is to turn the speech you were off. Enviado desde mi iPhone
 
El nov. 4, 2016, a las 6:50 PM, Joseph Lee [hidden email] escribió:
 
Hi David,
Ah, no need to write any code at all: speech viewer and speech dictionary
are two completely different features, and both doesn't require you to run
NVDA from source code. Also, you don't have to write an add-on to copy
speech viewer contents - in recent NVDA builds, you can open speech viewer,
go to the speech output area, copy all and paste it into documents.
The temporary dictionary is a volatile map. In other words, it is "saved" to
RAM, so no file will be created (unless I'm understanding the module wrong).
Cheers,
Joseph P.S. Your message came through multiple times.
 
-----Original Message-----
From: David Hilton [[hidden email]] 
Sent: Friday, November 4, 2016 5:41 PM
To: NVDA screen reader development [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [Nvda-devel] help with speech viewer and dependencies
 
Is there an other way i could look at the speech viewer with out using
source? If not then i will be willling to download it. Yes i am talking
about the pronounceation dictionaries. After putting a pattern and
replacement in to the temporary dictionary, the file is not found in the
user Configuración with the default and the voice files. As far as making a
site more accessible, this wont initially help a company make there site
accessible, what my intent is to create an add on simolar to the clip copy
add on by tylor spicy, and then merge it with the append text to clipboard
add on, and finally have a way that it can take the copied text and past it
in to a file. I don't mind pasting manually, but if this can bee automated i
would like that. The purpose of making an add on like this is so i can give
the user experience team the same information as the speech viewer, but
copied in to a file to email for there convinianced. Emviado  dsde mi iPhone
 
El nov. 4, 2016, a las 4:51 PM, James Scholes [hidden email]
escribió:
David Hilton wrote:
I was wondering if any one knose where the NVDA speech viewer is 
located in source.
If you have the NVDA source code, you'll find the code for the speech 
viewer in source\speechViewer.py.  If you don't have the source code, 
you need to download it first - see https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda 
for instructions.
 
I also want to know where the dependencies are located for NVDA eg, 
import ui, import global-plugins.
In the source directory, as above.
 
Finally, I would like to know where the temporary dictionary file is 
stord when the file is active (used, run) any assistance you could 
provide would bee mutch apriciated.
Are you refering to speech dictionaries?  They're stored in your NVDA 
configuration folder in a directory called speechDicts, not in 
temporary files.  NVDA will read tehm from this directory at startup 
and store them in memory.
 
To be honest, I'm unclear about how knowing all of this will help you 
or your client improve the accessibility of a website.
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Re: help with speech viewer and dependencies

David Hilton
I am not sure of where to go to request a feature to the NVDA developers. As far as the log, I have not checked that.
Enviado desde mi iPhone

El nov. 5, 2016, a las 4:03 AM, Joseph Lee <[hidden email]> escribió:

Hi,

Would the log file (with level set to input/output) serve this purpose with unneeded bits removed?

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: derek riemer [[hidden email]]
Sent: Saturday, November 5, 2016 2:57 AM
To: NVDA screen reader development
Subject: Re: [Nvda-devel] help with speech viewer and dependencies

 

I would raise an ticket with nvda to make the speech viewer invisible if user asks it to be, however at this stage, then maybe having an option to write speech viewer to some user chosen file is a good idea.

 

On 11/4/2016 10:33 PM, David Hilton wrote:

Thanks i will check my version. I would still like the speech viewer to be invisible, but if this is not possible, then minimized? Is it possible to minimize the speech viewer using the keyboard, or mouse? I would prefer the keybord, but i can use the mouse if i have to.

Enviado desde mi iPhone


El nov. 4, 2016, a las 9:17 PM, derek riemer <[hidden email]> escribió:

This is different in 2016.4 you can alt+tab to it.

 

On 11/4/2016 7:37 PM, David Hilton wrote:

The only way I see to enter into the speech viewer window, is to use the mouse and click in the speech viewer window, which will place your keyboard cursor in the speech you were window where you can then copy the text. If I am not mistaken, the temporary dictionary used to be contained in a file. But I would imagine this would have changed in later versions. As I have not looked into that since version 2012. Also, I am going to be doing some recording using screen capture software while I will be using this beach viewer. However, I do not want to speech if you were to be
 
Visible during recording, and the only way I know to do that is to turn the speech you were off. Enviado desde mi iPhone
 
El nov. 4, 2016, a las 6:50 PM, Joseph Lee [hidden email] escribió:
 
Hi David,
Ah, no need to write any code at all: speech viewer and speech dictionary
are two completely different features, and both doesn't require you to run
NVDA from source code. Also, you don't have to write an add-on to copy
speech viewer contents - in recent NVDA builds, you can open speech viewer,
go to the speech output area, copy all and paste it into documents.
The temporary dictionary is a volatile map. In other words, it is "saved" to
RAM, so no file will be created (unless I'm understanding the module wrong).
Cheers,
Joseph P.S. Your message came through multiple times.
 
-----Original Message-----
From: David Hilton [[hidden email]] 
Sent: Friday, November 4, 2016 5:41 PM
To: NVDA screen reader development [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [Nvda-devel] help with speech viewer and dependencies
 
Is there an other way i could look at the speech viewer with out using
source? If not then i will be willling to download it. Yes i am talking
about the pronounceation dictionaries. After putting a pattern and
replacement in to the temporary dictionary, the file is not found in the
user Configuración with the default and the voice files. As far as making a
site more accessible, this wont initially help a company make there site
accessible, what my intent is to create an add on simolar to the clip copy
add on by tylor spicy, and then merge it with the append text to clipboard
add on, and finally have a way that it can take the copied text and past it
in to a file. I don't mind pasting manually, but if this can bee automated i
would like that. The purpose of making an add on like this is so i can give
the user experience team the same information as the speech viewer, but
copied in to a file to email for there convinianced. Emviado  dsde mi iPhone
 
El nov. 4, 2016, a las 4:51 PM, James Scholes [hidden email]
escribió:
David Hilton wrote:
I was wondering if any one knose where the NVDA speech viewer is 
located in source.
If you have the NVDA source code, you'll find the code for the speech 
viewer in source\speechViewer.py.  If you don't have the source code, 
you need to download it first - see https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda 
for instructions.
 
I also want to know where the dependencies are located for NVDA eg, 
import ui, import global-plugins.
In the source directory, as above.
 
Finally, I would like to know where the temporary dictionary file is 
stord when the file is active (used, run) any assistance you could 
provide would bee mutch apriciated.
Are you refering to speech dictionaries?  They're stored in your NVDA 
configuration folder in a directory called speechDicts, not in 
temporary files.  NVDA will read tehm from this directory at startup 
and store them in memory.
 
To be honest, I'm unclear about how knowing all of this will help you 
or your client improve the accessibility of a website.
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Re: help with speech viewer and dependencies

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Log viewer does not give the information that i need, i just need a basic log of what the text to speech is saying. This is what the speech viewer gives me. I checked my NVDA version 2016.3 is 2016.4 still in rc? I checked for updates and couldn't find any.

Sent from my iPhone

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Hi,

Would the log file (with level set to input/output) serve this purpose with unneeded bits removed?

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: derek riemer [[hidden email]]
Sent: Saturday, November 5, 2016 2:57 AM
To: NVDA screen reader development
Subject: Re: [Nvda-devel] help with speech viewer and dependencies

 

I would raise an ticket with nvda to make the speech viewer invisible if user asks it to be, however at this stage, then maybe having an option to write speech viewer to some user chosen file is a good idea.

 

On 11/4/2016 10:33 PM, David Hilton wrote:

Thanks i will check my version. I would still like the speech viewer to be invisible, but if this is not possible, then minimized? Is it possible to minimize the speech viewer using the keyboard, or mouse? I would prefer the keybord, but i can use the mouse if i have to.

Enviado desde mi iPhone


El nov. 4, 2016, a las 9:17 PM, derek riemer <[hidden email]> escribió:

This is different in 2016.4 you can alt+tab to it.

 

On 11/4/2016 7:37 PM, David Hilton wrote:

The only way I see to enter into the speech viewer window, is to use the mouse and click in the speech viewer window, which will place your keyboard cursor in the speech you were window where you can then copy the text. If I am not mistaken, the temporary dictionary used to be contained in a file. But I would imagine this would have changed in later versions. As I have not looked into that since version 2012. Also, I am going to be doing some recording using screen capture software while I will be using this beach viewer. However, I do not want to speech if you were to be
 
Visible during recording, and the only way I know to do that is to turn the speech you were off. Enviado desde mi iPhone
 
El nov. 4, 2016, a las 6:50 PM, Joseph Lee [hidden email] escribió:
 
Hi David,
Ah, no need to write any code at all: speech viewer and speech dictionary
are two completely different features, and both doesn't require you to run
NVDA from source code. Also, you don't have to write an add-on to copy
speech viewer contents - in recent NVDA builds, you can open speech viewer,
go to the speech output area, copy all and paste it into documents.
The temporary dictionary is a volatile map. In other words, it is "saved" to
RAM, so no file will be created (unless I'm understanding the module wrong).
Cheers,
Joseph P.S. Your message came through multiple times.
 
-----Original Message-----
From: David Hilton [[hidden email]] 
Sent: Friday, November 4, 2016 5:41 PM
To: NVDA screen reader development [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [Nvda-devel] help with speech viewer and dependencies
 
Is there an other way i could look at the speech viewer with out using
source? If not then i will be willling to download it. Yes i am talking
about the pronounceation dictionaries. After putting a pattern and
replacement in to the temporary dictionary, the file is not found in the
user Configuración with the default and the voice files. As far as making a
site more accessible, this wont initially help a company make there site
accessible, what my intent is to create an add on simolar to the clip copy
add on by tylor spicy, and then merge it with the append text to clipboard
add on, and finally have a way that it can take the copied text and past it
in to a file. I don't mind pasting manually, but if this can bee automated i
would like that. The purpose of making an add on like this is so i can give
the user experience team the same information as the speech viewer, but
copied in to a file to email for there convinianced. Emviado  dsde mi iPhone
 
El nov. 4, 2016, a las 4:51 PM, James Scholes [hidden email]
escribió:
David Hilton wrote:
I was wondering if any one knose where the NVDA speech viewer is 
located in source.
If you have the NVDA source code, you'll find the code for the speech 
viewer in source\speechViewer.py.  If you don't have the source code, 
you need to download it first - see https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda 
for instructions.
 
I also want to know where the dependencies are located for NVDA eg, 
import ui, import global-plugins.
In the source directory, as above.
 
Finally, I would like to know where the temporary dictionary file is 
stord when the file is active (used, run) any assistance you could 
provide would bee mutch apriciated.
Are you refering to speech dictionaries?  They're stored in your NVDA 
configuration folder in a directory called speechDicts, not in 
temporary files.  NVDA will read tehm from this directory at startup 
and store them in memory.
 
To be honest, I'm unclear about how knowing all of this will help you 
or your client improve the accessibility of a website.
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Re: help with speech viewer and dependencies

Tyler Spivey
If all you want is an invisible speech viewer, write an addon to call
.Hide() and .Show() on speechViewer._guiFrame. That should make it
disappear/reappear.

Alternatively, open the Python console and run these, with the speech
viewer started:

import speechViewer;speechViewer._guiFrame.Hide()

import speechViewer;speechViewer._guiFrame.Show()

On 11/5/2016 6:47 AM, David Hilton wrote:

> Log viewer does not give the information that i need, i just need a
> basic log of what the text to speech is saying. This is what the speech
> viewer gives me. I checked my NVDA version 2016.3 is 2016.4 still in rc?
> I checked for updates and couldn't find any.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Nov 5, 2016, at 4:03 AM, Joseph Lee <[hidden email]
> <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Would the log file (with level set to input/output) serve this purpose
>> with unneeded bits removed?
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Joseph
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:*derek riemer [mailto:[hidden email]]
>> *Sent:* Saturday, November 5, 2016 2:57 AM
>> *To:* NVDA screen reader development
>> *Subject:* Re: [Nvda-devel] help with speech viewer and dependencies
>>
>>
>>
>> I would raise an ticket with nvda to make the speech viewer invisible
>> if user asks it to be, however at this stage, then maybe having an
>> option to write speech viewer to some user chosen file is a good idea.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 11/4/2016 10:33 PM, David Hilton wrote:
>>
>>     Thanks i will check my version. I would still like the speech
>>     viewer to be invisible, but if this is not possible, then
>>     minimized? Is it possible to minimize the speech viewer using the
>>     keyboard, or mouse? I would prefer the keybord, but i can use the
>>     mouse if i have to.
>>
>>     Enviado desde mi iPhone
>>
>>
>>     El nov. 4, 2016, a las 9:17 PM, derek riemer
>>     <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>> escribió:
>>
>>         This is different in 2016.4 you can alt+tab to it.
>>
>>
>>
>>         On 11/4/2016 7:37 PM, David Hilton wrote:
>>
>>             The only way I see to enter into the speech viewer window, is to use the mouse and click in the speech viewer window, which will place your keyboard cursor in the speech you were window where you can then copy the text. If I am not mistaken, the temporary dictionary used to be contained in a file. But I would imagine this would have changed in later versions. As I have not looked into that since version 2012. Also, I am going to be doing some recording using screen capture software while I will be using this beach viewer. However, I do not want to speech if you were to be
>>
>>
>>
>>             Visible during recording, and the only way I know to do that is to turn the speech you were off. Enviado desde mi iPhone
>>
>>
>>
>>                 El nov. 4, 2016, a las 6:50 PM, Joseph Lee <[hidden email]>
>>                 <mailto:[hidden email]> escribió:
>>
>>
>>
>>                 Hi David,
>>
>>                 Ah, no need to write any code at all: speech viewer and speech dictionary
>>
>>                 are two completely different features, and both doesn't require you to run
>>
>>                 NVDA from source code. Also, you don't have to write an add-on to copy
>>
>>                 speech viewer contents - in recent NVDA builds, you can open speech viewer,
>>
>>                 go to the speech output area, copy all and paste it into documents.
>>
>>                 The temporary dictionary is a volatile map. In other words, it is "saved" to
>>
>>                 RAM, so no file will be created (unless I'm understanding the module wrong).
>>
>>                 Cheers,
>>
>>                 Joseph P.S. Your message came through multiple times.
>>
>>
>>
>>                 -----Original Message-----
>>
>>                 From: David Hilton [mailto:[hidden email]]
>>
>>                 Sent: Friday, November 4, 2016 5:41 PM
>>
>>                 To: NVDA screen reader development <[hidden email]>
>>                 <mailto:[hidden email]>
>>
>>                 Subject: Re: [Nvda-devel] help with speech viewer and dependencies
>>
>>
>>
>>                 Is there an other way i could look at the speech viewer with out using
>>
>>                 source? If not then i will be willling to download it. Yes i am talking
>>
>>                 about the pronounceation dictionaries. After putting a pattern and
>>
>>                 replacement in to the temporary dictionary, the file is not found in the
>>
>>                 user Configuración with the default and the voice files. As far as making a
>>
>>                 site more accessible, this wont initially help a company make there site
>>
>>                 accessible, what my intent is to create an add on simolar to the clip copy
>>
>>                 add on by tylor spicy, and then merge it with the append text to clipboard
>>
>>                 add on, and finally have a way that it can take the copied text and past it
>>
>>                 in to a file. I don't mind pasting manually, but if this can bee automated i
>>
>>                 would like that. The purpose of making an add on like this is so i can give
>>
>>                 the user experience team the same information as the speech viewer, but
>>
>>                 copied in to a file to email for there convinianced. Emviado  dsde mi iPhone
>>
>>
>>
>>                     El nov. 4, 2016, a las 4:51 PM, James Scholes <[hidden email]> <mailto:[hidden email]>
>>
>>                 escribió:
>>
>>                     David Hilton wrote:
>>
>>                         I was wondering if any one knose where the NVDA speech viewer is
>>
>>                         located in source.
>>
>>                     If you have the NVDA source code, you'll find the code for the speech
>>
>>                     viewer in source\speechViewer.py.  If you don't have the source code,
>>
>>                     you need to download it first - see https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda
>>
>>                     for instructions.
>>
>>
>>
>>                         I also want to know where the dependencies are located for NVDA eg,
>>
>>                         import ui, import global-plugins.
>>
>>                     In the source directory, as above.
>>
>>
>>
>>                         Finally, I would like to know where the temporary dictionary file is
>>
>>                         stord when the file is active (used, run) any assistance you could
>>
>>                         provide would bee mutch apriciated.
>>
>>                     Are you refering to speech dictionaries?  They're stored in your NVDA
>>
>>                     configuration folder in a directory called speechDicts, not in
>>
>>                     temporary files.  NVDA will read tehm from this directory at startup
>>
>>                     and store them in memory.
>>
>>
>>
>>                     To be honest, I'm unclear about how knowing all of this will help you
>>
>>                     or your client improve the accessibility of a website.
>>
>>                     --
>>
>>                     James Scholes
>>
>>                     http://twitter.com/JamesScholes
>>
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Re: help with speech viewer and dependencies

David Hilton
Thank you, I will see if that works.

Enviado desde mi iPhone

> El nov. 5, 2016, a las 8:42 AM, Tyler Spivey <[hidden email]> escribió:
>
> If all you want is an invisible speech viewer, write an addon to call
> .Hide() and .Show() on speechViewer._guiFrame. That should make it
> disappear/reappear.
>
> Alternatively, open the Python console and run these, with the speech
> viewer started:
>
> import speechViewer;speechViewer._guiFrame.Hide()
>
> import speechViewer;speechViewer._guiFrame.Show()
>
>> On 11/5/2016 6:47 AM, David Hilton wrote:
>> Log viewer does not give the information that i need, i just need a
>> basic log of what the text to speech is saying. This is what the speech
>> viewer gives me. I checked my NVDA version 2016.3 is 2016.4 still in rc?
>> I checked for updates and couldn't find any.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Nov 5, 2016, at 4:03 AM, Joseph Lee <[hidden email]
>> <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Would the log file (with level set to input/output) serve this purpose
>>> with unneeded bits removed?
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Joseph
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:*derek riemer [mailto:[hidden email]]
>>> *Sent:* Saturday, November 5, 2016 2:57 AM
>>> *To:* NVDA screen reader development
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Nvda-devel] help with speech viewer and dependencies
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I would raise an ticket with nvda to make the speech viewer invisible
>>> if user asks it to be, however at this stage, then maybe having an
>>> option to write speech viewer to some user chosen file is a good idea.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11/4/2016 10:33 PM, David Hilton wrote:
>>>
>>>    Thanks i will check my version. I would still like the speech
>>>    viewer to be invisible, but if this is not possible, then
>>>    minimized? Is it possible to minimize the speech viewer using the
>>>    keyboard, or mouse? I would prefer the keybord, but i can use the
>>>    mouse if i have to.
>>>
>>>    Enviado desde mi iPhone
>>>
>>>
>>>    El nov. 4, 2016, a las 9:17 PM, derek riemer
>>>    <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>> escribió:
>>>
>>>        This is different in 2016.4 you can alt+tab to it.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>        On 11/4/2016 7:37 PM, David Hilton wrote:
>>>
>>>            The only way I see to enter into the speech viewer window, is to use the mouse and click in the speech viewer window, which will place your keyboard cursor in the speech you were window where you can then copy the text. If I am not mistaken, the temporary dictionary used to be contained in a file. But I would imagine this would have changed in later versions. As I have not looked into that since version 2012. Also, I am going to be doing some recording using screen capture software while I will be using this beach viewer. However, I do not want to speech if you were to be
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>            Visible during recording, and the only way I know to do that is to turn the speech you were off. Enviado desde mi iPhone
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>                El nov. 4, 2016, a las 6:50 PM, Joseph Lee <[hidden email]>
>>>                <mailto:[hidden email]> escribió:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>                Hi David,
>>>
>>>                Ah, no need to write any code at all: speech viewer and speech dictionary
>>>
>>>                are two completely different features, and both doesn't require you to run
>>>
>>>                NVDA from source code. Also, you don't have to write an add-on to copy
>>>
>>>                speech viewer contents - in recent NVDA builds, you can open speech viewer,
>>>
>>>                go to the speech output area, copy all and paste it into documents.
>>>
>>>                The temporary dictionary is a volatile map. In other words, it is "saved" to
>>>
>>>                RAM, so no file will be created (unless I'm understanding the module wrong).
>>>
>>>                Cheers,
>>>
>>>                Joseph P.S. Your message came through multiple times.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>                -----Original Message-----
>>>
>>>                From: David Hilton [mailto:[hidden email]]
>>>
>>>                Sent: Friday, November 4, 2016 5:41 PM
>>>
>>>                To: NVDA screen reader development <[hidden email]>
>>>                <mailto:[hidden email]>
>>>
>>>                Subject: Re: [Nvda-devel] help with speech viewer and dependencies
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>                Is there an other way i could look at the speech viewer with out using
>>>
>>>                source? If not then i will be willling to download it. Yes i am talking
>>>
>>>                about the pronounceation dictionaries. After putting a pattern and
>>>
>>>                replacement in to the temporary dictionary, the file is not found in the
>>>
>>>                user Configuración with the default and the voice files. As far as making a
>>>
>>>                site more accessible, this wont initially help a company make there site
>>>
>>>                accessible, what my intent is to create an add on simolar to the clip copy
>>>
>>>                add on by tylor spicy, and then merge it with the append text to clipboard
>>>
>>>                add on, and finally have a way that it can take the copied text and past it
>>>
>>>                in to a file. I don't mind pasting manually, but if this can bee automated i
>>>
>>>                would like that. The purpose of making an add on like this is so i can give
>>>
>>>                the user experience team the same information as the speech viewer, but
>>>
>>>                copied in to a file to email for there convinianced. Emviado  dsde mi iPhone
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>                    El nov. 4, 2016, a las 4:51 PM, James Scholes <[hidden email]> <mailto:[hidden email]>
>>>
>>>                escribió:
>>>
>>>                    David Hilton wrote:
>>>
>>>                        I was wondering if any one knose where the NVDA speech viewer is
>>>
>>>                        located in source.
>>>
>>>                    If you have the NVDA source code, you'll find the code for the speech
>>>
>>>                    viewer in source\speechViewer.py.  If you don't have the source code,
>>>
>>>                    you need to download it first - see https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda
>>>
>>>                    for instructions.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>                        I also want to know where the dependencies are located for NVDA eg,
>>>
>>>                        import ui, import global-plugins.
>>>
>>>                    In the source directory, as above.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>                        Finally, I would like to know where the temporary dictionary file is
>>>
>>>                        stord when the file is active (used, run) any assistance you could
>>>
>>>                        provide would bee mutch apriciated.
>>>
>>>                    Are you refering to speech dictionaries?  They're stored in your NVDA
>>>
>>>                    configuration folder in a directory called speechDicts, not in
>>>
>>>                    temporary files.  NVDA will read tehm from this directory at startup
>>>
>>>                    and store them in memory.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>                    To be honest, I'm unclear about how knowing all of this will help you
>>>
>>>                    or your client improve the accessibility of a website.
>>>
>>>                    --
>>>
>>>                    James Scholes
>>>
>>>                    http://twitter.com/JamesScholes
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>                    ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
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>>>
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>>>
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>>>
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>>>
>>>                Order your platform today. http://sdm.link/xeonphi
>>>
>>>                _______________________________________________
>>>
>>>                Nvda-devel mailing list
>>>
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>>>
>>>                https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nvda-devel
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>                ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>>                Developer Access Program for Intel Xeon Phi Processors
>>>
>>>                Access to Intel Xeon Phi processor-based developer platforms.
>>>
>>>                With one year of Intel Parallel Studio XE.
>>>
>>>                Training and support from Colfax.
>>>
>>>                Order your platform today. http://sdm.link/xeonphi
>>>
>>>                _______________________________________________
>>>
>>>                Nvda-devel mailing list
>>>
>>>                [hidden email]
>>>                <mailto:[hidden email]>
>>>
>>>                https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nvda-devel
>>>
>>>            ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>>            Developer Access Program for Intel Xeon Phi Processors
>>>
>>>            Access to Intel Xeon Phi processor-based developer platforms.
>>>
>>>            With one year of Intel Parallel Studio XE.
>>>
>>>            Training and support from Colfax.
>>>
>>>            Order your platform today. http://sdm.link/xeonphi
>>>
>>>            _______________________________________________
>>>
>>>            Nvda-devel mailing list
>>>
>>>            [hidden email]
>>>            <mailto:[hidden email]>
>>>
>>>            https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nvda-devel
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>        --
>>>
>>>        ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>>
>>>            Derek Riemer
>>>
>>>          * Department of computer science, third year undergraduate
>>>            student.
>>>          * Proud user of the NVDA screen reader.
>>>          * Open source enthusiast.
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>>>
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>>>        Awesome little hand built weather app!
>>>        <http://django.derekriemer.com/weather/>
>>>
>>>        email me at [hidden email]
>>>        <mailto:[hidden email]>
>>>        Phone: (303) 906-2194
>>>
>>>        ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>        Developer Access Program for Intel Xeon Phi Processors
>>>        Access to Intel Xeon Phi processor-based developer platforms.
>>>        With one year of Intel Parallel Studio XE.
>>>        Training and support from Colfax.
>>>        Order your platform today. http://sdm.link/xeonphi
>>>
>>>        _______________________________________________
>>>        Nvda-devel mailing list
>>>        [hidden email]
>>>        <mailto:[hidden email]>
>>>        https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nvda-devel
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>>    Developer Access Program for Intel Xeon Phi Processors
>>>
>>>    Access to Intel Xeon Phi processor-based developer platforms.
>>>
>>>    With one year of Intel Parallel Studio XE.
>>>
>>>    Training and support from Colfax.
>>>
>>>    Order your platform today. http://sdm.link/xeonphi
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>    _______________________________________________
>>>
>>>    Nvda-devel mailing list
>>>
>>>    [hidden email]
>>>    <mailto:[hidden email]>
>>>
>>>    https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nvda-devel
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>>
>>>    Derek Riemer
>>>
>>>  * Department of computer science, third year undergraduate student.
>>>  * Proud user of the NVDA screen reader.
>>>  * Open source enthusiast.
>>>  * Member of Bridge Cu
>>>  * Avid skiier.
>>>
>>> Websites:
>>> Honors portfolio <http://derekriemer.com>
>>> Awesome little hand built weather app!
>>> <http://django.derekriemer.com/weather/>
>>>
>>> email me at [hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>
>>> Phone: (303) 906-2194
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> Developer Access Program for Intel Xeon Phi Processors
>>> Access to Intel Xeon Phi processor-based developer platforms.
>>> With one year of Intel Parallel Studio XE.
>>> Training and support from Colfax.
>>> Order your platform today. http://sdm.link/xeonphi
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Nvda-devel mailing list
>>> [hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>
>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nvda-devel
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Developer Access Program for Intel Xeon Phi Processors
>> Access to Intel Xeon Phi processor-based developer platforms.
>> With one year of Intel Parallel Studio XE.
>> Training and support from Colfax.
>> Order your platform today. http://sdm.link/xeonphi
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Nvda-devel mailing list
>> [hidden email]
>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nvda-devel
>>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Developer Access Program for Intel Xeon Phi Processors
> Access to Intel Xeon Phi processor-based developer platforms.
> With one year of Intel Parallel Studio XE.
> Training and support from Colfax.
> Order your platform today. http://sdm.link/xeonphi
> _______________________________________________
> Nvda-devel mailing list
> [hidden email]
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nvda-devel

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Developer Access Program for Intel Xeon Phi Processors
Access to Intel Xeon Phi processor-based developer platforms.
With one year of Intel Parallel Studio XE.
Training and support from Colfax.
Order your platform today. http://sdm.link/xeonphi
_______________________________________________
Nvda-devel mailing list
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