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Mike Reiser
    Hello all,

Just was wondering if anyone had any further suggestions on resolving my
inability to use the nvda virtual buffers on vista?  ia2.dll is
registered, firefox still crashes eather with the windows reporter when
run as admin or the mozilla crash reporter as a normal user, and I loose
speech when the error report from windows comes up.  I'd really like to
test the new buffers, do I need to re-install windows or something?  
Just tried the latest trunk with these results.

Mike


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Valiant8086 (on laptop)
You have any weird plug-ins running in firefox?
---- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Reiser" <[hidden email]>
To: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 11:43 AM
Subject: [Nvda-dev] resolving my problems witgh virtual buffers


>    Hello all,
>
> Just was wondering if anyone had any further suggestions on resolving my
> inability to use the nvda virtual buffers on vista?  ia2.dll is
> registered, firefox still crashes eather with the windows reporter when
> run as admin or the mozilla crash reporter as a normal user, and I loose
> speech when the error report from windows comes up.  I'd really like to
> test the new buffers, do I need to re-install windows or something?
> Just tried the latest trunk with these results.
>
> Mike
>
> _______________________________________________
> Nvda-dev mailing list
> [hidden email]
> http://lists.nvaccess.org/listinfo/nvda-dev
>
>
> --
> No virus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG.
> Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.13/1378 - Release Date:
> 4/15/2008 9:12 AM
>
>




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Mike Reiser
Valiant8086 (on laptop) wrote:

> You have any weird plug-ins running in firefox?
> ---- Original Message -----
> From: "Mike Reiser" <[hidden email]>
> To: <[hidden email]>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 11:43 AM
> Subject: [Nvda-dev] resolving my problems witgh virtual buffers
>
>
>  
>>    Hello all,
>>
>> Just was wondering if anyone had any further suggestions on resolving my
>> inability to use the nvda virtual buffers on vista?  ia2.dll is
>> registered, firefox still crashes eather with the windows reporter when
>> run as admin or the mozilla crash reporter as a normal user, and I loose
>> speech when the error report from windows comes up.  I'd really like to
>> test the new buffers, do I need to re-install windows or something?
>> Just tried the latest trunk with these results.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Nvda-dev mailing list
>> [hidden email]
>> http://lists.nvaccess.org/listinfo/nvda-dev
>>
>>
>> --
>> No virus found in this incoming message.
>> Checked by AVG.
>> Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.13/1378 - Release Date:
>> 4/15/2008 9:12 AM
>>
>>
>>    
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Nvda-dev mailing list
> [hidden email]
> http://lists.nvaccess.org/listinfo/nvda-dev
>
>  
no not that I know of, that shouldn't have anything to do with it should
it?  This is extremely frustrating because my laptop with vista works
fine with them.

Mike


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Valiant8086 (on laptop)
No it shouldn't, and I suppose it probably doesn't, just trying anything I
can think of. Is that a strange version of firefox? Like the portable
version? I think the portable works anyway but hmm. You did say 3.0b5pre.
You have all the right dependencies? If running from source you can find
links to them all inside the source directory. Misc dependencies extracted
properly? Snapshot didn't work huh? those ideas don't apply either then, did
you use an installer version of the snapshot? The installer version will
register IA2.dll for you, might be worth considering if you haven't already.
I know you've registered it already yourself but something went wrong
somewhere, attempting to think of everything possible. Does fireffox work
with other screen readers? I can't remember if you've already answered that
one. You're not using a screen reader along side NVDA at the same time I
suppose, even though that shouldn't cause any problems either. Is firefox
installed with default settings? rofl default settings! I don't even know if
it lets you change settings during installation. Are you using ESpeak? It
would be kind of funny to have a synthesizer that couldn't say homepage --  
firefox.

You've already tried to get a log, all it said was slow starting core,
right?

I suppose this message is all screwed up and rambling. Are you the only one
having this specific problem?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Reiser" <[hidden email]>
To: "News and discussion for NVDA (NonVisual Desktop Access),a free and open
source screen reader for Microsoft Windows" <[hidden email]>
Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 10:07 PM
Subject: Re: [Nvda-dev] resolving my problems witgh virtual buffers


> Valiant8086 (on laptop) wrote:
>> You have any weird plug-ins running in firefox?
>> ---- Original Message -----
>> From: "Mike Reiser" <[hidden email]>
>> To: <[hidden email]>
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 11:43 AM
>> Subject: [Nvda-dev] resolving my problems witgh virtual buffers
>>
>>
>>
>>>    Hello all,
>>>
>>> Just was wondering if anyone had any further suggestions on resolving my
>>> inability to use the nvda virtual buffers on vista?  ia2.dll is
>>> registered, firefox still crashes eather with the windows reporter when
>>> run as admin or the mozilla crash reporter as a normal user, and I loose
>>> speech when the error report from windows comes up.  I'd really like to
>>> test the new buffers, do I need to re-install windows or something?
>>> Just tried the latest trunk with these results.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Nvda-dev mailing list
>>> [hidden email]
>>> http://lists.nvaccess.org/listinfo/nvda-dev
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> No virus found in this incoming message.
>>> Checked by AVG.
>>> Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.13/1378 - Release Date:
>>> 4/15/2008 9:12 AM
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Nvda-dev mailing list
>> [hidden email]
>> http://lists.nvaccess.org/listinfo/nvda-dev
>>
>>
> no not that I know of, that shouldn't have anything to do with it should
> it?  This is extremely frustrating because my laptop with vista works
> fine with them.
>
> Mike
>
> _______________________________________________
> Nvda-dev mailing list
> [hidden email]
> http://lists.nvaccess.org/listinfo/nvda-dev
>
>
> --
> No virus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG.
> Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.13/1378 - Release Date:
> 4/15/2008 9:12 AM
>
>




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Mike Reiser
Valiant8086 (on laptop) wrote:

> No it shouldn't, and I suppose it probably doesn't, just trying anything I
> can think of. Is that a strange version of firefox? Like the portable
> version? I think the portable works anyway but hmm. You did say 3.0b5pre.
> You have all the right dependencies? If running from source you can find
> links to them all inside the source directory. Misc dependencies extracted
> properly? Snapshot didn't work huh? those ideas don't apply either then, did
> you use an installer version of the snapshot? The installer version will
> register IA2.dll for you, might be worth considering if you haven't already.
> I know you've registered it already yourself but something went wrong
> somewhere, attempting to think of everything possible. Does fireffox work
> with other screen readers? I can't remember if you've already answered that
> one. You're not using a screen reader along side NVDA at the same time I
> suppose, even though that shouldn't cause any problems either. Is firefox
> installed with default settings? rofl default settings! I don't even know if
> it lets you change settings during installation. Are you using ESpeak? It
> would be kind of funny to have a synthesizer that couldn't say homepage --  
> firefox.
>
> You've already tried to get a log, all it said was slow starting core,
> right?
>
> I suppose this message is all screwed up and rambling. Are you the only one
> having this specific problem?
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mike Reiser" <[hidden email]>
> To: "News and discussion for NVDA (NonVisual Desktop Access),a free and open
> source screen reader for Microsoft Windows" <[hidden email]>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 10:07 PM
> Subject: Re: [Nvda-dev] resolving my problems witgh virtual buffers
>
>
>  
>> Valiant8086 (on laptop) wrote:
>>    
>>> You have any weird plug-ins running in firefox?
>>> ---- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Mike Reiser" <[hidden email]>
>>> To: <[hidden email]>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 11:43 AM
>>> Subject: [Nvda-dev] resolving my problems witgh virtual buffers
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>      
>>>>    Hello all,
>>>>
>>>> Just was wondering if anyone had any further suggestions on resolving my
>>>> inability to use the nvda virtual buffers on vista?  ia2.dll is
>>>> registered, firefox still crashes eather with the windows reporter when
>>>> run as admin or the mozilla crash reporter as a normal user, and I loose
>>>> speech when the error report from windows comes up.  I'd really like to
>>>> test the new buffers, do I need to re-install windows or something?
>>>> Just tried the latest trunk with these results.
>>>>
>>>> Mike
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Nvda-dev mailing list
>>>> [hidden email]
>>>> http://lists.nvaccess.org/listinfo/nvda-dev
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> No virus found in this incoming message.
>>>> Checked by AVG.
>>>> Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.13/1378 - Release Date:
>>>> 4/15/2008 9:12 AM
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Nvda-dev mailing list
>>> [hidden email]
>>> http://lists.nvaccess.org/listinfo/nvda-dev
>>>
>>>
>>>      
>> no not that I know of, that shouldn't have anything to do with it should
>> it?  This is extremely frustrating because my laptop with vista works
>> fine with them.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Nvda-dev mailing list
>> [hidden email]
>> http://lists.nvaccess.org/listinfo/nvda-dev
>>
>>
>> --
>> No virus found in this incoming message.
>> Checked by AVG.
>> Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.13/1378 - Release Date:
>> 4/15/2008 9:12 AM
>>
>>
>>    
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Nvda-dev mailing list
> [hidden email]
> http://lists.nvaccess.org/listinfo/nvda-dev
>
>  
I seem to be one of the few with this problem.  Firefox is installed
with defaults.  I used an installer compiled from the trunk version
instead of snapshots.  Am using espeak.  Firefox works fine with other
screen readers.  I'm using nvda along side with jaws so I could
determine what the error said since I loose speech when it comes up.  
The log file contained the slow starting core message.  I'm using the
regular version of firefox, all misc depencies are extracted.

Mike


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Valiant8086 (on laptop)
Hi.
Could you try a snapshot installer? It would seam that the svn should be
smart enough to include the registering of ia2.dll in it's instructions for
telling nullsoft install system to make the installer but who knows.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Reiser" <[hidden email]>
To: "News and discussion for NVDA (NonVisual Desktop Access),a free and open
source screen reader for Microsoft Windows" <[hidden email]>
Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 7:18 AM
Subject: Re: [Nvda-dev] resolving my problems witgh virtual buffers


> Valiant8086 (on laptop) wrote:
>> No it shouldn't, and I suppose it probably doesn't, just trying anything
>> I
>> can think of. Is that a strange version of firefox? Like the portable
>> version? I think the portable works anyway but hmm. You did say 3.0b5pre.
>> You have all the right dependencies? If running from source you can find
>> links to them all inside the source directory. Misc dependencies
>> extracted
>> properly? Snapshot didn't work huh? those ideas don't apply either then,
>> did
>> you use an installer version of the snapshot? The installer version will
>> register IA2.dll for you, might be worth considering if you haven't
>> already.
>> I know you've registered it already yourself but something went wrong
>> somewhere, attempting to think of everything possible. Does fireffox work
>> with other screen readers? I can't remember if you've already answered
>> that
>> one. You're not using a screen reader along side NVDA at the same time I
>> suppose, even though that shouldn't cause any problems either. Is firefox
>> installed with default settings? rofl default settings! I don't even know
>> if
>> it lets you change settings during installation. Are you using ESpeak? It
>> would be kind of funny to have a synthesizer that couldn't say
>> homepage --
>> firefox.
>>
>> You've already tried to get a log, all it said was slow starting core,
>> right?
>>
>> I suppose this message is all screwed up and rambling. Are you the only
>> one
>> having this specific problem?
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Mike Reiser" <[hidden email]>
>> To: "News and discussion for NVDA (NonVisual Desktop Access),a free and
>> open
>> source screen reader for Microsoft Windows" <[hidden email]>
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 10:07 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Nvda-dev] resolving my problems witgh virtual buffers
>>
>>
>>
>>> Valiant8086 (on laptop) wrote:
>>>
>>>> You have any weird plug-ins running in firefox?
>>>> ---- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Mike Reiser" <[hidden email]>
>>>> To: <[hidden email]>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 11:43 AM
>>>> Subject: [Nvda-dev] resolving my problems witgh virtual buffers
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>    Hello all,
>>>>>
>>>>> Just was wondering if anyone had any further suggestions on resolving
>>>>> my
>>>>> inability to use the nvda virtual buffers on vista?  ia2.dll is
>>>>> registered, firefox still crashes eather with the windows reporter
>>>>> when
>>>>> run as admin or the mozilla crash reporter as a normal user, and I
>>>>> loose
>>>>> speech when the error report from windows comes up.  I'd really like
>>>>> to
>>>>> test the new buffers, do I need to re-install windows or something?
>>>>> Just tried the latest trunk with these results.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mike
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Nvda-dev mailing list
>>>>> [hidden email]
>>>>> http://lists.nvaccess.org/listinfo/nvda-dev
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> No virus found in this incoming message.
>>>>> Checked by AVG.
>>>>> Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.13/1378 - Release Date:
>>>>> 4/15/2008 9:12 AM
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Nvda-dev mailing list
>>>> [hidden email]
>>>> http://lists.nvaccess.org/listinfo/nvda-dev
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> no not that I know of, that shouldn't have anything to do with it should
>>> it?  This is extremely frustrating because my laptop with vista works
>>> fine with them.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Nvda-dev mailing list
>>> [hidden email]
>>> http://lists.nvaccess.org/listinfo/nvda-dev
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> No virus found in this incoming message.
>>> Checked by AVG.
>>> Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.13/1378 - Release Date:
>>> 4/15/2008 9:12 AM
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Nvda-dev mailing list
>> [hidden email]
>> http://lists.nvaccess.org/listinfo/nvda-dev
>>
>>
> I seem to be one of the few with this problem.  Firefox is installed
> with defaults.  I used an installer compiled from the trunk version
> instead of snapshots.  Am using espeak.  Firefox works fine with other
> screen readers.  I'm using nvda along side with jaws so I could
> determine what the error said since I loose speech when it comes up.
> The log file contained the slow starting core message.  I'm using the
> regular version of firefox, all misc depencies are extracted.
>
> Mike
>
> _______________________________________________
> Nvda-dev mailing list
> [hidden email]
> http://lists.nvaccess.org/listinfo/nvda-dev
>
>
> --
> No virus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG.
> Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.13/1378 - Release Date:
> 4/15/2008 9:12 AM
>
>




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Mike Reiser
Valiant8086 (on laptop) wrote:

> Hi.
> Could you try a snapshot installer? It would seam that the svn should be
> smart enough to include the registering of ia2.dll in it's instructions for
> telling nullsoft install system to make the installer but who knows.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mike Reiser" <[hidden email]>
> To: "News and discussion for NVDA (NonVisual Desktop Access),a free and open
> source screen reader for Microsoft Windows" <[hidden email]>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 7:18 AM
> Subject: Re: [Nvda-dev] resolving my problems witgh virtual buffers
>
>
>  
>> Valiant8086 (on laptop) wrote:
>>    
>>> No it shouldn't, and I suppose it probably doesn't, just trying anything
>>> I
>>> can think of. Is that a strange version of firefox? Like the portable
>>> version? I think the portable works anyway but hmm. You did say 3.0b5pre.
>>> You have all the right dependencies? If running from source you can find
>>> links to them all inside the source directory. Misc dependencies
>>> extracted
>>> properly? Snapshot didn't work huh? those ideas don't apply either then,
>>> did
>>> you use an installer version of the snapshot? The installer version will
>>> register IA2.dll for you, might be worth considering if you haven't
>>> already.
>>> I know you've registered it already yourself but something went wrong
>>> somewhere, attempting to think of everything possible. Does fireffox work
>>> with other screen readers? I can't remember if you've already answered
>>> that
>>> one. You're not using a screen reader along side NVDA at the same time I
>>> suppose, even though that shouldn't cause any problems either. Is firefox
>>> installed with default settings? rofl default settings! I don't even know
>>> if
>>> it lets you change settings during installation. Are you using ESpeak? It
>>> would be kind of funny to have a synthesizer that couldn't say
>>> homepage --
>>> firefox.
>>>
>>> You've already tried to get a log, all it said was slow starting core,
>>> right?
>>>
>>> I suppose this message is all screwed up and rambling. Are you the only
>>> one
>>> having this specific problem?
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Mike Reiser" <[hidden email]>
>>> To: "News and discussion for NVDA (NonVisual Desktop Access),a free and
>>> open
>>> source screen reader for Microsoft Windows" <[hidden email]>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 10:07 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Nvda-dev] resolving my problems witgh virtual buffers
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>      
>>>> Valiant8086 (on laptop) wrote:
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>> You have any weird plug-ins running in firefox?
>>>>> ---- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Mike Reiser" <[hidden email]>
>>>>> To: <[hidden email]>
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 11:43 AM
>>>>> Subject: [Nvda-dev] resolving my problems witgh virtual buffers
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>>    Hello all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just was wondering if anyone had any further suggestions on resolving
>>>>>> my
>>>>>> inability to use the nvda virtual buffers on vista?  ia2.dll is
>>>>>> registered, firefox still crashes eather with the windows reporter
>>>>>> when
>>>>>> run as admin or the mozilla crash reporter as a normal user, and I
>>>>>> loose
>>>>>> speech when the error report from windows comes up.  I'd really like
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> test the new buffers, do I need to re-install windows or something?
>>>>>> Just tried the latest trunk with these results.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> Nvda-dev mailing list
>>>>>> [hidden email]
>>>>>> http://lists.nvaccess.org/listinfo/nvda-dev
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> No virus found in this incoming message.
>>>>>> Checked by AVG.
>>>>>> Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.13/1378 - Release Date:
>>>>>> 4/15/2008 9:12 AM
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Nvda-dev mailing list
>>>>> [hidden email]
>>>>> http://lists.nvaccess.org/listinfo/nvda-dev
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>> no not that I know of, that shouldn't have anything to do with it should
>>>> it?  This is extremely frustrating because my laptop with vista works
>>>> fine with them.
>>>>
>>>> Mike
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Nvda-dev mailing list
>>>> [hidden email]
>>>> http://lists.nvaccess.org/listinfo/nvda-dev
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> No virus found in this incoming message.
>>>> Checked by AVG.
>>>> Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.13/1378 - Release Date:
>>>> 4/15/2008 9:12 AM
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Nvda-dev mailing list
>>> [hidden email]
>>> http://lists.nvaccess.org/listinfo/nvda-dev
>>>
>>>
>>>      
>> I seem to be one of the few with this problem.  Firefox is installed
>> with defaults.  I used an installer compiled from the trunk version
>> instead of snapshots.  Am using espeak.  Firefox works fine with other
>> screen readers.  I'm using nvda along side with jaws so I could
>> determine what the error said since I loose speech when it comes up.
>> The log file contained the slow starting core message.  I'm using the
>> regular version of firefox, all misc depencies are extracted.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Nvda-dev mailing list
>> [hidden email]
>> http://lists.nvaccess.org/listinfo/nvda-dev
>>
>>
>> --
>> No virus found in this incoming message.
>> Checked by AVG.
>> Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.13/1378 - Release Date:
>> 4/15/2008 9:12 AM
>>
>>
>>    
>
>
>
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>
>  
Just tried the snapshot, same issue even when running nvda and firefox
as admi.  I loose speech which is when the error reporting dialogue
comes up.  Thanks,

Mike