[NVDA-dev] Possible language bug: ESpeak seems to mess up numbers

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[NVDA-dev] Possible language bug: ESpeak seems to mess up numbers

Daniel Gartmann

Hi,

Yesterday with the 23 snap from July 1, I tried to change the NVDA
version of Espeak's voice to French and used it for a while there. Then,
when I switched to Spanish, the numbers wer apparently read a bit wrong.
For instance, the number 23 in Spanish is "veintitres", but with the
Spanish eSpeak voice on my system it was read "ventres", as if it had
some remainders of the French pronunciation still sitting there.

Now, I am not a native speaker of either of these languages, so I ask
the natives here to bear with me for the sake of getting a possible bug
in the snaps fixed quickly. If it is a false alarm, well everything is
good.

The Danish voice doesn't have these kind of problems, so I am a bit
confused as to what is going on here. I tried to uninstall NVDA and
delete the remaining folders, but the result is the same.

Hope the above makes some kind of sense *smile*.

Best regards

Daniel


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Re: [NVDA-dev] Possible language bug: ESpeak seems to mess up numbers

Mesar Hameed
Hi,

According to the readme.txt in the bzr root directory, NVDA currently uses espeak release 1.45.03.
There was some recent fixes to espeak development (1.45.31), to do with Spanish numbers, so I guess you can try that version or wait for a new stable
release to come out.

http://espeak.sourceforge.net/test/latest.html

Best

Mesar
On Sat 02/07/2011 at 17:29:12, Daniel K. Gartmann wrote:

>
> Hi,
>
> Yesterday with the 23 snap from July 1, I tried to change the NVDA
> version of Espeak's voice to French and used it for a while there.
> Then, when I switched to Spanish, the numbers wer apparently read a
> bit wrong. For instance, the number 23 in Spanish is "veintitres",
> but with the Spanish eSpeak voice on my system it was read
> "ventres", as if it had some remainders of the French pronunciation
> still sitting there.
>
> Now, I am not a native speaker of either of these languages, so I
> ask the natives here to bear with me for the sake of getting a
> possible bug in the snaps fixed quickly. If it is a false alarm,
> well everything is good.
>
> The Danish voice doesn't have these kind of problems, so I am a bit
> confused as to what is going on here. I tried to uninstall NVDA and
> delete the remaining folders, but the result is the same.
>
> Hope the above makes some kind of sense *smile*.
>
> Best regards
>
> Daniel
>
> _______________________________________________
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Re: [NVDA-dev] Possible language bug: ESpeak seems to mess upnumbers

Brian Gaff Lineone downstairs
Yes indeed, there was a thread on this very group a week or so back I think
in which the  lead dev of espeak gave the info about when it was to be
fixed. In themeantim, just pretend the  chap in your machine is dyslexic in
Spanish.. or is that disnumeric?

Brian
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Mesar Hameed" <[hidden email]>
To: "NVDA screen reader development" <[hidden email]>
Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2011 4:51 PM
Subject: Re: [NVDA-dev] Possible language bug: ESpeak seems to mess
upnumbers


> Hi,
>
> According to the readme.txt in the bzr root directory, NVDA currently uses
> espeak release 1.45.03.
> There was some recent fixes to espeak development (1.45.31), to do with
> Spanish numbers, so I guess you can try that version or wait for a new
> stable
> release to come out.
>
> http://espeak.sourceforge.net/test/latest.html
>
> Best
>
> Mesar
> On Sat 02/07/2011 at 17:29:12, Daniel K. Gartmann wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Yesterday with the 23 snap from July 1, I tried to change the NVDA
>> version of Espeak's voice to French and used it for a while there.
>> Then, when I switched to Spanish, the numbers wer apparently read a
>> bit wrong. For instance, the number 23 in Spanish is "veintitres",
>> but with the Spanish eSpeak voice on my system it was read
>> "ventres", as if it had some remainders of the French pronunciation
>> still sitting there.
>>
>> Now, I am not a native speaker of either of these languages, so I
>> ask the natives here to bear with me for the sake of getting a
>> possible bug in the snaps fixed quickly. If it is a false alarm,
>> well everything is good.
>>
>> The Danish voice doesn't have these kind of problems, so I am a bit
>> confused as to what is going on here. I tried to uninstall NVDA and
>> delete the remaining folders, but the result is the same.
>>
>> Hope the above makes some kind of sense *smile*.
>>
>> Best regards
>>
>> Daniel
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> NVDA-dev mailing list
>> [hidden email]
>> http://lists.nvaccess.org/listinfo/nvda-dev
>
> _______________________________________________
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Re: [NVDA-dev] Possible language bug: ESpeak seems to mess upnumbers

Michel Such
Just tested with eSpeak 145.31, switching between french and spanish and found no problem with numbers.
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2011 6:43 AM
Subject: Re: [NVDA-dev] Possible language bug: ESpeak seems to mess upnumbers

Yes indeed, there was a thread on this very group a week or so back I think
in which the  lead dev of espeak gave the info about when it was to be
fixed. In themeantim, just pretend the  chap in your machine is dyslexic in
Spanish.. or is that disnumeric?

Brian
Brian Gaff  [hidden email]- If you need to email me please send it
to
[hidden email]
Making sure the name 'Brian Gaff' is in the display name field.
Failure to do this may result in delays or message loss.

Some sacrifices are a fact of life in our junk mail  riddled world!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mesar Hameed" <[hidden email]>
To: "NVDA screen reader development" <[hidden email]>
Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2011 4:51 PM
Subject: Re: [NVDA-dev] Possible language bug: ESpeak seems to mess
upnumbers


> Hi,
>
> According to the readme.txt in the bzr root directory, NVDA currently uses
> espeak release 1.45.03.
> There was some recent fixes to espeak development (1.45.31), to do with
> Spanish numbers, so I guess you can try that version or wait for a new
> stable
> release to come out.
>
> http://espeak.sourceforge.net/test/latest.html
>
> Best
>
> Mesar
> On Sat 02/07/2011 at 17:29:12, Daniel K. Gartmann wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Yesterday with the 23 snap from July 1, I tried to change the NVDA
>> version of Espeak's voice to French and used it for a while there.
>> Then, when I switched to Spanish, the numbers wer apparently read a
>> bit wrong. For instance, the number 23 in Spanish is "veintitres",
>> but with the Spanish eSpeak voice on my system it was read
>> "ventres", as if it had some remainders of the French pronunciation
>> still sitting there.
>>
>> Now, I am not a native speaker of either of these languages, so I
>> ask the natives here to bear with me for the sake of getting a
>> possible bug in the snaps fixed quickly. If it is a false alarm,
>> well everything is good.
>>
>> The Danish voice doesn't have these kind of problems, so I am a bit
>> confused as to what is going on here. I tried to uninstall NVDA and
>> delete the remaining folders, but the result is the same.
>>
>> Hope the above makes some kind of sense *smile*.
>>
>> Best regards
>>
>> Daniel
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> NVDA-dev mailing list
>> [hidden email]
>> http://lists.nvaccess.org/listinfo/nvda-dev
>
> _______________________________________________
> NVDA-dev mailing list
> [hidden email]
> http://lists.nvaccess.org/listinfo/nvda-dev


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