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Michael Curran-3
Hi all,

If you haven't yet seen on Twitter or the freelists list, we are
currently running a survey in order to help us identify how we can
improve NVDA's default voice.

The survey can be found here:
http://www.nvaccess.org/speech-synthesizer-survey-1/

Listen to the speech samples on the page, and then answer the questions
at the end.

Thanks for your input.

Mick



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Re: Help us improve the default NVDA voice

Brian Gaff Lineone downstairs
Hi, a few comments about the survey.
Only one variant of current Espeak. To me if the  standard voice is made so
its mid edgy range is reduced it becomes a lot better to listen to.
No female  voice choices
What about other languages?
 Anyway, I've filled it in as is.
 Brian

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Sent: Friday, August 08, 2014 6:29 AM
Subject: [Nvda-devel] Help us improve the default NVDA voice


> Hi all,
>
> If you haven't yet seen on Twitter or the freelists list, we are
> currently running a survey in order to help us identify how we can
> improve NVDA's default voice.
>
> The survey can be found here:
> http://www.nvaccess.org/speech-synthesizer-survey-1/
>
> Listen to the speech samples on the page, and then answer the questions
> at the end.
>
> Thanks for your input.
>
> Mick
>
>
>
> --
> Michael Curran
> Executive Director, NV Access Limited
> Ph + 61 7 5667 8372
> www.nvaccess.org
> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
> Twitter: @nvaccess
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Re: Help us improve the default NVDA voice

Drew Mochak
Agreed. My current preference is the Klat4 espeak variant, but none of
them are in the survey.
On 8/8/2014 12:40 AM, Brian Gaff Lineone downstairs wrote:

> Hi, a few comments about the survey.
> Only one variant of current Espeak. To me if the  standard voice is made so
> its mid edgy range is reduced it becomes a lot better to listen to.
> No female  voice choices
> What about other languages?
>   Anyway, I've filled it in as is.
>   Brian
>
> [hidden email]
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>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Michael Curran" <[hidden email]>
> To: "NVDA screen reader development" <[hidden email]>
> Sent: Friday, August 08, 2014 6:29 AM
> Subject: [Nvda-devel] Help us improve the default NVDA voice
>
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> If you haven't yet seen on Twitter or the freelists list, we are
>> currently running a survey in order to help us identify how we can
>> improve NVDA's default voice.
>>
>> The survey can be found here:
>> http://www.nvaccess.org/speech-synthesizer-survey-1/
>>
>> Listen to the speech samples on the page, and then answer the questions
>> at the end.
>>
>> Thanks for your input.
>>
>> Mick
>>
>>
>>
>> --
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>> Executive Director, NV Access Limited
>> Ph + 61 7 5667 8372
>> www.nvaccess.org
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Re: Help us improve the default NVDA voice

Peter Vágner
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Hello,
I have expressed my view in the surwey comment however what should be
addressed is that we need to be assured this is all eSpeak or that the
ability to speak all available languages is preserved.
For example the sample #4 sounds like what we do have currently set as
the default. I find sample #3 verry interesting and I would consider
switching to it if it can speak slovak and possibly other languages I am
using or might need to use in the future.

Greetings

Peter

On 08.08.2014 at 09:40 Brian Gaff Lineone downstairs wrote:

> Hi, a few comments about the survey.
> Only one variant of current Espeak. To me if the  standard voice is made so
> its mid edgy range is reduced it becomes a lot better to listen to.
> No female  voice choices
> What about other languages?
>   Anyway, I've filled it in as is.
>   Brian
>
> [hidden email]
> Brian Gaff's other account.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Michael Curran" <[hidden email]>
> To: "NVDA screen reader development" <[hidden email]>
> Sent: Friday, August 08, 2014 6:29 AM
> Subject: [Nvda-devel] Help us improve the default NVDA voice
>
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> If you haven't yet seen on Twitter or the freelists list, we are
>> currently running a survey in order to help us identify how we can
>> improve NVDA's default voice.
>>
>> The survey can be found here:
>> http://www.nvaccess.org/speech-synthesizer-survey-1/
>>
>> Listen to the speech samples on the page, and then answer the questions
>> at the end.
>>
>> Thanks for your input.
>>
>> Mick
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Michael Curran
>> Executive Director, NV Access Limited
>> Ph + 61 7 5667 8372
>> www.nvaccess.org
>> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
>> Twitter: @nvaccess
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Re: Help us improve the default NVDA voice

Michael Curran-3
Sample 3 certainly has the ability to speak all eSpeak languages.

Even if people choose one that currently cannot speak all languages, we
wouldn't change the default until it could speak those languages, or at
least, we wouldn't change the default for those effected languages.

Mick

Mick


On 8/08/2014 7:07 PM, Peter Vágner wrote:

> Hello,
> I have expressed my view in the surwey comment however what should be
> addressed is that we need to be assured this is all eSpeak or that the
> ability to speak all available languages is preserved.
> For example the sample #4 sounds like what we do have currently set as
> the default. I find sample #3 verry interesting and I would consider
> switching to it if it can speak slovak and possibly other languages I am
> using or might need to use in the future.
>
> Greetings
>
> Peter
>
> On 08.08.2014 at 09:40 Brian Gaff Lineone downstairs wrote:
>> Hi, a few comments about the survey.
>> Only one variant of current Espeak. To me if the  standard voice is made so
>> its mid edgy range is reduced it becomes a lot better to listen to.
>> No female  voice choices
>> What about other languages?
>>    Anyway, I've filled it in as is.
>>    Brian
>>
>> [hidden email]
>> Brian Gaff's other account.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Michael Curran" <[hidden email]>
>> To: "NVDA screen reader development" <[hidden email]>
>> Sent: Friday, August 08, 2014 6:29 AM
>> Subject: [Nvda-devel] Help us improve the default NVDA voice
>>
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> If you haven't yet seen on Twitter or the freelists list, we are
>>> currently running a survey in order to help us identify how we can
>>> improve NVDA's default voice.
>>>
>>> The survey can be found here:
>>> http://www.nvaccess.org/speech-synthesizer-survey-1/
>>>
>>> Listen to the speech samples on the page, and then answer the questions
>>> at the end.
>>>
>>> Thanks for your input.
>>>
>>> Mick
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Michael Curran
>>> Executive Director, NV Access Limited
>>> Ph + 61 7 5667 8372
>>> www.nvaccess.org
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Re: Help us improve the default NVDA voice

Greg Wocher
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Hello,
I really like the third voice. What voice is it? The first one is not
bad either.

Thanks,
Greg Wocher

Follow me on Twitter @GWocher

On 8/8/2014 1:29 AM, Michael Curran wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> If you haven't yet seen on Twitter or the freelists list, we are
> currently running a survey in order to help us identify how we can
> improve NVDA's default voice.
>
> The survey can be found here:
> http://www.nvaccess.org/speech-synthesizer-survey-1/
>
> Listen to the speech samples on the page, and then answer the questions
> at the end.
>
> Thanks for your input.
>
> Mick
>
>
>


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Re: Help us improve the default NVDA voice

Alex H.
Hello,

I enjoy samples 3 and 5. 5 sort of reminds me of Orpheus and would
probably do excellent and US English cranked up to a fast rate. Is
that a new Espeak variant, or something else?

Thanks and keep up the great work guys.
Alex

On 8/8/14, Greg Wocher <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hello,
> I really like the third voice. What voice is it? The first one is not
> bad either.
>
> Thanks,
> Greg Wocher
>
> Follow me on Twitter @GWocher
>
> On 8/8/2014 1:29 AM, Michael Curran wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> If you haven't yet seen on Twitter or the freelists list, we are
>> currently running a survey in order to help us identify how we can
>> improve NVDA's default voice.
>>
>> The survey can be found here:
>> http://www.nvaccess.org/speech-synthesizer-survey-1/
>>
>> Listen to the speech samples on the page, and then answer the questions
>> at the end.
>>
>> Thanks for your input.
>>
>> Mick
>>
>>
>>
>
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Re: Help us improve the default NVDA voice

Bhavya shah
Hi.
I have filled the form.
However some comments.
Does anyone find Sample 5 more like a human but an old man? If
something could be done about it then it would be great.
Sample 2 was even more human sounding but somehow I wasn't being able
to catch all its words and till the time it had completed the sentence
I had already forgot what I had read.
Sample 1 and 3 are nice but I still like Max the best.

On 8/8/14, Alex H. <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I enjoy samples 3 and 5. 5 sort of reminds me of Orpheus and would
> probably do excellent and US English cranked up to a fast rate. Is
> that a new Espeak variant, or something else?
>
> Thanks and keep up the great work guys.
> Alex
>
> On 8/8/14, Greg Wocher <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> Hello,
>> I really like the third voice. What voice is it? The first one is not
>> bad either.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Greg Wocher
>>
>> Follow me on Twitter @GWocher
>>
>> On 8/8/2014 1:29 AM, Michael Curran wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> If you haven't yet seen on Twitter or the freelists list, we are
>>> currently running a survey in order to help us identify how we can
>>> improve NVDA's default voice.
>>>
>>> The survey can be found here:
>>> http://www.nvaccess.org/speech-synthesizer-survey-1/
>>>
>>> Listen to the speech samples on the page, and then answer the questions
>>> at the end.
>>>
>>> Thanks for your input.
>>>
>>> Mick
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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Re: Help us improve the default NVDA voice

vincent-lg
Hi everyone,

I've filled the form and won't explain my choice here.  But I have a
question about the survey, a question some person asked before me:
English samples are good, but what about all the users who have
different languages switched on?  For instance, the espeak voice
currently used is not unpleasant in English, but, in my opinion at
least, horrible in French.  I guess that it would be hard to find a
synthetizer that would sound good no matter the used language... still,
providing other samples in other languages (perhaps asking the user's
language at the beginning of the survey) could be a good idea.

I don't know if Google Forms can do that.  Just suggesting.

Happy hacking,

Vincent
Le 08/08/2014 16:16, Bhavya shah a écrit :

> Hi.
> I have filled the form.
> However some comments.
> Does anyone find Sample 5 more like a human but an old man? If
> something could be done about it then it would be great.
> Sample 2 was even more human sounding but somehow I wasn't being able
> to catch all its words and till the time it had completed the sentence
> I had already forgot what I had read.
> Sample 1 and 3 are nice but I still like Max the best.
>
> On 8/8/14, Alex H. <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> I enjoy samples 3 and 5. 5 sort of reminds me of Orpheus and would
>> probably do excellent and US English cranked up to a fast rate. Is
>> that a new Espeak variant, or something else?
>>
>> Thanks and keep up the great work guys.
>> Alex
>>
>> On 8/8/14, Greg Wocher <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>> I really like the third voice. What voice is it? The first one is not
>>> bad either.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Greg Wocher
>>>
>>> Follow me on Twitter @GWocher
>>>
>>> On 8/8/2014 1:29 AM, Michael Curran wrote:
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> If you haven't yet seen on Twitter or the freelists list, we are
>>>> currently running a survey in order to help us identify how we can
>>>> improve NVDA's default voice.
>>>>
>>>> The survey can be found here:
>>>> http://www.nvaccess.org/speech-synthesizer-survey-1/
>>>>
>>>> Listen to the speech samples on the page, and then answer the questions
>>>> at the end.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for your input.
>>>>
>>>> Mick
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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Re: Help us improve the default NVDA voice

mk360
Same problem here. For me espeak is one of the best synthetizers in english, but it's spanish is not so good.

Regards,
mk.


On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 10:34 AM, Vincent LE GOFF <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi everyone,

I've filled the form and won't explain my choice here.  But I have a
question about the survey, a question some person asked before me:
English samples are good, but what about all the users who have
different languages switched on?  For instance, the espeak voice
currently used is not unpleasant in English, but, in my opinion at
least, horrible in French.  I guess that it would be hard to find a
synthetizer that would sound good no matter the used language... still,
providing other samples in other languages (perhaps asking the user's
language at the beginning of the survey) could be a good idea.

I don't know if Google Forms can do that.  Just suggesting.

Happy hacking,

Vincent
Le 08/08/2014 16:16, Bhavya shah a écrit :
> Hi.
> I have filled the form.
> However some comments.
> Does anyone find Sample 5 more like a human but an old man? If
> something could be done about it then it would be great.
> Sample 2 was even more human sounding but somehow I wasn't being able
> to catch all its words and till the time it had completed the sentence
> I had already forgot what I had read.
> Sample 1 and 3 are nice but I still like Max the best.
>
> On 8/8/14, Alex H. <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> I enjoy samples 3 and 5. 5 sort of reminds me of Orpheus and would
>> probably do excellent and US English cranked up to a fast rate. Is
>> that a new Espeak variant, or something else?
>>
>> Thanks and keep up the great work guys.
>> Alex
>>
>> On 8/8/14, Greg Wocher <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>> I really like the third voice. What voice is it? The first one is not
>>> bad either.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Greg Wocher
>>>
>>> Follow me on Twitter @GWocher
>>>
>>> On 8/8/2014 1:29 AM, Michael Curran wrote:
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> If you haven't yet seen on Twitter or the freelists list, we are
>>>> currently running a survey in order to help us identify how we can
>>>> improve NVDA's default voice.
>>>>
>>>> The survey can be found here:
>>>> http://www.nvaccess.org/speech-synthesizer-survey-1/
>>>>
>>>> Listen to the speech samples on the page, and then answer the questions
>>>> at the end.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for your input.
>>>>
>>>> Mick
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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Re: Help us improve the default NVDA voice

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Hi.
If ESpeak doesn't speak Spanish nicely then its ESpeak's lapse not
NVDA's. Contacting the ESpeak developers would be a better idea.
Here we are discussing about the various variants.
Please correct me if I am wrong.


On 8/8/14, mk360 <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Same problem here. For me espeak is one of the best synthetizers in
> english, but it's spanish is not so good.
>
> Regards,
> mk.
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 10:34 AM, Vincent LE GOFF <
> [hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> I've filled the form and won't explain my choice here.  But I have a
>> question about the survey, a question some person asked before me:
>> English samples are good, but what about all the users who have
>> different languages switched on?  For instance, the espeak voice
>> currently used is not unpleasant in English, but, in my opinion at
>> least, horrible in French.  I guess that it would be hard to find a
>> synthetizer that would sound good no matter the used language... still,
>> providing other samples in other languages (perhaps asking the user's
>> language at the beginning of the survey) could be a good idea.
>>
>> I don't know if Google Forms can do that.  Just suggesting.
>>
>> Happy hacking,
>>
>> Vincent
>> Le 08/08/2014 16:16, Bhavya shah a écrit :
>> > Hi.
>> > I have filled the form.
>> > However some comments.
>> > Does anyone find Sample 5 more like a human but an old man? If
>> > something could be done about it then it would be great.
>> > Sample 2 was even more human sounding but somehow I wasn't being able
>> > to catch all its words and till the time it had completed the sentence
>> > I had already forgot what I had read.
>> > Sample 1 and 3 are nice but I still like Max the best.
>> >
>> > On 8/8/14, Alex H. <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> >> Hello,
>> >>
>> >> I enjoy samples 3 and 5. 5 sort of reminds me of Orpheus and would
>> >> probably do excellent and US English cranked up to a fast rate. Is
>> >> that a new Espeak variant, or something else?
>> >>
>> >> Thanks and keep up the great work guys.
>> >> Alex
>> >>
>> >> On 8/8/14, Greg Wocher <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> >>> Hello,
>> >>> I really like the third voice. What voice is it? The first one is not
>> >>> bad either.
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks,
>> >>> Greg Wocher
>> >>>
>> >>> Follow me on Twitter @GWocher
>> >>>
>> >>> On 8/8/2014 1:29 AM, Michael Curran wrote:
>> >>>> Hi all,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> If you haven't yet seen on Twitter or the freelists list, we are
>> >>>> currently running a survey in order to help us identify how we can
>> >>>> improve NVDA's default voice.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> The survey can be found here:
>> >>>> http://www.nvaccess.org/speech-synthesizer-survey-1/
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Listen to the speech samples on the page, and then answer the
>> questions
>> >>>> at the end.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Thanks for your input.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Mick
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
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Re: Help us improve the default NVDA voice

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Not really, the different sounds in the list are mainly Micks Speech player
code based on Klat through Espeak which is only around in an add on form at
the moment.
 We were saying that there were not enough of the normal variants in the
demo.
 For languages other than English it gets a whole lot more complicated.
What one really needs here is a way to highlight the varients at boot up the
first time, as a lot of people said they did not like Espeak simply cos they
did not like the default voice, which is really ntot giving it a chance.
 Yes, I agree if its other languages, then one needs to help the Espeak
project out by offering to test things. Sadly when I last looked at the dev
tool for creating phonemes etc, it was very hard to use if you are blind,
not looked of late.
 Brian
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Subject: Re: [Nvda-devel] Help us improve the default NVDA voice


Hi.
If ESpeak doesn't speak Spanish nicely then its ESpeak's lapse not
NVDA's. Contacting the ESpeak developers would be a better idea.
Here we are discussing about the various variants.
Please correct me if I am wrong.


On 8/8/14, mk360 <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Same problem here. For me espeak is one of the best synthetizers in
> english, but it's spanish is not so good.
>
> Regards,
> mk.
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 10:34 AM, Vincent LE GOFF <
> [hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> I've filled the form and won't explain my choice here.  But I have a
>> question about the survey, a question some person asked before me:
>> English samples are good, but what about all the users who have
>> different languages switched on?  For instance, the espeak voice
>> currently used is not unpleasant in English, but, in my opinion at
>> least, horrible in French.  I guess that it would be hard to find a
>> synthetizer that would sound good no matter the used language... still,
>> providing other samples in other languages (perhaps asking the user's
>> language at the beginning of the survey) could be a good idea.
>>
>> I don't know if Google Forms can do that.  Just suggesting.
>>
>> Happy hacking,
>>
>> Vincent
>> Le 08/08/2014 16:16, Bhavya shah a écrit :
>> > Hi.
>> > I have filled the form.
>> > However some comments.
>> > Does anyone find Sample 5 more like a human but an old man? If
>> > something could be done about it then it would be great.
>> > Sample 2 was even more human sounding but somehow I wasn't being able
>> > to catch all its words and till the time it had completed the sentence
>> > I had already forgot what I had read.
>> > Sample 1 and 3 are nice but I still like Max the best.
>> >
>> > On 8/8/14, Alex H. <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> >> Hello,
>> >>
>> >> I enjoy samples 3 and 5. 5 sort of reminds me of Orpheus and would
>> >> probably do excellent and US English cranked up to a fast rate. Is
>> >> that a new Espeak variant, or something else?
>> >>
>> >> Thanks and keep up the great work guys.
>> >> Alex
>> >>
>> >> On 8/8/14, Greg Wocher <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> >>> Hello,
>> >>> I really like the third voice. What voice is it? The first one is not
>> >>> bad either.
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks,
>> >>> Greg Wocher
>> >>>
>> >>> Follow me on Twitter @GWocher
>> >>>
>> >>> On 8/8/2014 1:29 AM, Michael Curran wrote:
>> >>>> Hi all,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> If you haven't yet seen on Twitter or the freelists list, we are
>> >>>> currently running a survey in order to help us identify how we can
>> >>>> improve NVDA's default voice.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> The survey can be found here:
>> >>>> http://www.nvaccess.org/speech-synthesizer-survey-1/
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Listen to the speech samples on the page, and then answer the
>> questions
>> >>>> at the end.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Thanks for your input.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Mick
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>
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Re: Help us improve the default NVDA voice

mk360
You're right about espeak, and I give some feedback to espeak at the
past, this is the reason of why I usually don't speak about these
things on this list. However, espeak was an example of what problems
can occur with good english voices on other languages (the first mail
speak about french voice) as a consideration for this new voice. You
need to see the context of the mail I'm replying. Note that usually I
haven't problems with espeak, but I used hardware synths with more
problems, so I'm not a general user on these kind of things.

Regards,
mk

On 8/8/14, List account Brians <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Not really, the different sounds in the list are mainly Micks Speech player
>
> code based on Klat through Espeak which is only around in an add on form at
>
> the moment.
>  We were saying that there were not enough of the normal variants in the
> demo.
>  For languages other than English it gets a whole lot more complicated.
> What one really needs here is a way to highlight the varients at boot up the
>
> first time, as a lot of people said they did not like Espeak simply cos they
>
> did not like the default voice, which is really ntot giving it a chance.
>  Yes, I agree if its other languages, then one needs to help the Espeak
> project out by offering to test things. Sadly when I last looked at the dev
>
> tool for creating phonemes etc, it was very hard to use if you are blind,
> not looked of late.
>  Brian
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bhavya shah" <[hidden email]>
> To: "NVDA screen reader development" <[hidden email]>
> Sent: Friday, August 08, 2014 5:53 PM
> Subject: Re: [Nvda-devel] Help us improve the default NVDA voice
>
>
> Hi.
> If ESpeak doesn't speak Spanish nicely then its ESpeak's lapse not
> NVDA's. Contacting the ESpeak developers would be a better idea.
> Here we are discussing about the various variants.
> Please correct me if I am wrong.
>
>
> On 8/8/14, mk360 <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> Same problem here. For me espeak is one of the best synthetizers in
>> english, but it's spanish is not so good.
>>
>> Regards,
>> mk.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 10:34 AM, Vincent LE GOFF <
>> [hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi everyone,
>>>
>>> I've filled the form and won't explain my choice here.  But I have a
>>> question about the survey, a question some person asked before me:
>>> English samples are good, but what about all the users who have
>>> different languages switched on?  For instance, the espeak voice
>>> currently used is not unpleasant in English, but, in my opinion at
>>> least, horrible in French.  I guess that it would be hard to find a
>>> synthetizer that would sound good no matter the used language... still,
>>> providing other samples in other languages (perhaps asking the user's
>>> language at the beginning of the survey) could be a good idea.
>>>
>>> I don't know if Google Forms can do that.  Just suggesting.
>>>
>>> Happy hacking,
>>>
>>> Vincent
>>> Le 08/08/2014 16:16, Bhavya shah a écrit :
>>> > Hi.
>>> > I have filled the form.
>>> > However some comments.
>>> > Does anyone find Sample 5 more like a human but an old man? If
>>> > something could be done about it then it would be great.
>>> > Sample 2 was even more human sounding but somehow I wasn't being able
>>> > to catch all its words and till the time it had completed the sentence
>>> > I had already forgot what I had read.
>>> > Sample 1 and 3 are nice but I still like Max the best.
>>> >
>>> > On 8/8/14, Alex H. <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>> >> Hello,
>>> >>
>>> >> I enjoy samples 3 and 5. 5 sort of reminds me of Orpheus and would
>>> >> probably do excellent and US English cranked up to a fast rate. Is
>>> >> that a new Espeak variant, or something else?
>>> >>
>>> >> Thanks and keep up the great work guys.
>>> >> Alex
>>> >>
>>> >> On 8/8/14, Greg Wocher <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>> >>> Hello,
>>> >>> I really like the third voice. What voice is it? The first one is
>>> >>> not
>>> >>> bad either.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Thanks,
>>> >>> Greg Wocher
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Follow me on Twitter @GWocher
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On 8/8/2014 1:29 AM, Michael Curran wrote:
>>> >>>> Hi all,
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> If you haven't yet seen on Twitter or the freelists list, we are
>>> >>>> currently running a survey in order to help us identify how we can
>>> >>>> improve NVDA's default voice.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> The survey can be found here:
>>> >>>> http://www.nvaccess.org/speech-synthesizer-survey-1/
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Listen to the speech samples on the page, and then answer the
>>> questions
>>> >>>> at the end.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Thanks for your input.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Mick
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
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Re: Help us improve the default NVDA voice

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Hello, what is the second sample?
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Sample 3 certainly has the ability to speak all eSpeak languages.

Even if people choose one that currently cannot speak all languages, we
wouldn't change the default until it could speak those languages, or at
least, we wouldn't change the default for those effected languages.

Mick

Mick


On 8/08/2014 7:07 PM, Peter Vágner wrote:

> Hello,
> I have expressed my view in the surwey comment however what should be
> addressed is that we need to be assured this is all eSpeak or that the
> ability to speak all available languages is preserved.
> For example the sample #4 sounds like what we do have currently set as
> the default. I find sample #3 verry interesting and I would consider
> switching to it if it can speak slovak and possibly other languages I am
> using or might need to use in the future.
>
> Greetings
>
> Peter
>
> On 08.08.2014 at 09:40 Brian Gaff Lineone downstairs wrote:
>> Hi, a few comments about the survey.
>> Only one variant of current Espeak. To me if the  standard voice is made
>> so
>> its mid edgy range is reduced it becomes a lot better to listen to.
>> No female  voice choices
>> What about other languages?
>>    Anyway, I've filled it in as is.
>>    Brian
>>
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>> Sent: Friday, August 08, 2014 6:29 AM
>> Subject: [Nvda-devel] Help us improve the default NVDA voice
>>
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> If you haven't yet seen on Twitter or the freelists list, we are
>>> currently running a survey in order to help us identify how we can
>>> improve NVDA's default voice.
>>>
>>> The survey can be found here:
>>> http://www.nvaccess.org/speech-synthesizer-survey-1/
>>>
>>> Listen to the speech samples on the page, and then answer the questions
>>> at the end.
>>>
>>> Thanks for your input.
>>>
>>> Mick
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Hello, you did not listen to the french voice at espeak's first releace, it
was very horrible!
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Hi everyone,

I've filled the form and won't explain my choice here.  But I have a
question about the survey, a question some person asked before me:
English samples are good, but what about all the users who have
different languages switched on?  For instance, the espeak voice
currently used is not unpleasant in English, but, in my opinion at
least, horrible in French.  I guess that it would be hard to find a
synthetizer that would sound good no matter the used language... still,
providing other samples in other languages (perhaps asking the user's
language at the beginning of the survey) could be a good idea.

I don't know if Google Forms can do that.  Just suggesting.

Happy hacking,

Vincent
Le 08/08/2014 16:16, Bhavya shah a écrit :

> Hi.
> I have filled the form.
> However some comments.
> Does anyone find Sample 5 more like a human but an old man? If
> something could be done about it then it would be great.
> Sample 2 was even more human sounding but somehow I wasn't being able
> to catch all its words and till the time it had completed the sentence
> I had already forgot what I had read.
> Sample 1 and 3 are nice but I still like Max the best.
>
> On 8/8/14, Alex H. <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> I enjoy samples 3 and 5. 5 sort of reminds me of Orpheus and would
>> probably do excellent and US English cranked up to a fast rate. Is
>> that a new Espeak variant, or something else?
>>
>> Thanks and keep up the great work guys.
>> Alex
>>
>> On 8/8/14, Greg Wocher <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>> I really like the third voice. What voice is it? The first one is not
>>> bad either.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Greg Wocher
>>>
>>> Follow me on Twitter @GWocher
>>>
>>> On 8/8/2014 1:29 AM, Michael Curran wrote:
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> If you haven't yet seen on Twitter or the freelists list, we are
>>>> currently running a survey in order to help us identify how we can
>>>> improve NVDA's default voice.
>>>>
>>>> The survey can be found here:
>>>> http://www.nvaccess.org/speech-synthesizer-survey-1/
>>>>
>>>> Listen to the speech samples on the page, and then answer the questions
>>>> at the end.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for your input.
>>>>
>>>> Mick
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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The second sample is not espeak, or it has some changes in the intonations!
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From: "Bhavya shah" <[hidden email]>
To: "NVDA screen reader development" <[hidden email]>
Sent: Friday, August 08, 2014 6:53 PM
Subject: Re: [Nvda-devel] Help us improve the default NVDA voice


Hi.
If ESpeak doesn't speak Spanish nicely then its ESpeak's lapse not
NVDA's. Contacting the ESpeak developers would be a better idea.
Here we are discussing about the various variants.
Please correct me if I am wrong.


On 8/8/14, mk360 <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Same problem here. For me espeak is one of the best synthetizers in
> english, but it's spanish is not so good.
>
> Regards,
> mk.
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 10:34 AM, Vincent LE GOFF <
> [hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> I've filled the form and won't explain my choice here.  But I have a
>> question about the survey, a question some person asked before me:
>> English samples are good, but what about all the users who have
>> different languages switched on?  For instance, the espeak voice
>> currently used is not unpleasant in English, but, in my opinion at
>> least, horrible in French.  I guess that it would be hard to find a
>> synthetizer that would sound good no matter the used language... still,
>> providing other samples in other languages (perhaps asking the user's
>> language at the beginning of the survey) could be a good idea.
>>
>> I don't know if Google Forms can do that.  Just suggesting.
>>
>> Happy hacking,
>>
>> Vincent
>> Le 08/08/2014 16:16, Bhavya shah a écrit :
>> > Hi.
>> > I have filled the form.
>> > However some comments.
>> > Does anyone find Sample 5 more like a human but an old man? If
>> > something could be done about it then it would be great.
>> > Sample 2 was even more human sounding but somehow I wasn't being able
>> > to catch all its words and till the time it had completed the sentence
>> > I had already forgot what I had read.
>> > Sample 1 and 3 are nice but I still like Max the best.
>> >
>> > On 8/8/14, Alex H. <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> >> Hello,
>> >>
>> >> I enjoy samples 3 and 5. 5 sort of reminds me of Orpheus and would
>> >> probably do excellent and US English cranked up to a fast rate. Is
>> >> that a new Espeak variant, or something else?
>> >>
>> >> Thanks and keep up the great work guys.
>> >> Alex
>> >>
>> >> On 8/8/14, Greg Wocher <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> >>> Hello,
>> >>> I really like the third voice. What voice is it? The first one is not
>> >>> bad either.
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks,
>> >>> Greg Wocher
>> >>>
>> >>> Follow me on Twitter @GWocher
>> >>>
>> >>> On 8/8/2014 1:29 AM, Michael Curran wrote:
>> >>>> Hi all,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> If you haven't yet seen on Twitter or the freelists list, we are
>> >>>> currently running a survey in order to help us identify how we can
>> >>>> improve NVDA's default voice.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> The survey can be found here:
>> >>>> http://www.nvaccess.org/speech-synthesizer-survey-1/
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Listen to the speech samples on the page, and then answer the
>> questions
>> >>>> at the end.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Thanks for your input.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Mick
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
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Brandon Misch
the second sample is a product known as nv speech player. Currently a prototype but is available as a nvda add-on for those interested.
Only english is supported at this time.

On Aug 9, 2014, at 8:22 AM, luigi <[hidden email]> wrote:

> The second sample is not espeak, or it has some changes in the intonations!
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bhavya shah" <[hidden email]>
> To: "NVDA screen reader development" <[hidden email]>
> Sent: Friday, August 08, 2014 6:53 PM
> Subject: Re: [Nvda-devel] Help us improve the default NVDA voice
>
>
> Hi.
> If ESpeak doesn't speak Spanish nicely then its ESpeak's lapse not
> NVDA's. Contacting the ESpeak developers would be a better idea.
> Here we are discussing about the various variants.
> Please correct me if I am wrong.
>
>
> On 8/8/14, mk360 <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> Same problem here. For me espeak is one of the best synthetizers in
>> english, but it's spanish is not so good.
>>
>> Regards,
>> mk.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 10:34 AM, Vincent LE GOFF <
>> [hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi everyone,
>>>
>>> I've filled the form and won't explain my choice here.  But I have a
>>> question about the survey, a question some person asked before me:
>>> English samples are good, but what about all the users who have
>>> different languages switched on?  For instance, the espeak voice
>>> currently used is not unpleasant in English, but, in my opinion at
>>> least, horrible in French.  I guess that it would be hard to find a
>>> synthetizer that would sound good no matter the used language... still,
>>> providing other samples in other languages (perhaps asking the user's
>>> language at the beginning of the survey) could be a good idea.
>>>
>>> I don't know if Google Forms can do that.  Just suggesting.
>>>
>>> Happy hacking,
>>>
>>> Vincent
>>> Le 08/08/2014 16:16, Bhavya shah a écrit :
>>>> Hi.
>>>> I have filled the form.
>>>> However some comments.
>>>> Does anyone find Sample 5 more like a human but an old man? If
>>>> something could be done about it then it would be great.
>>>> Sample 2 was even more human sounding but somehow I wasn't being able
>>>> to catch all its words and till the time it had completed the sentence
>>>> I had already forgot what I had read.
>>>> Sample 1 and 3 are nice but I still like Max the best.
>>>>
>>>> On 8/8/14, Alex H. <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>
>>>>> I enjoy samples 3 and 5. 5 sort of reminds me of Orpheus and would
>>>>> probably do excellent and US English cranked up to a fast rate. Is
>>>>> that a new Espeak variant, or something else?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks and keep up the great work guys.
>>>>> Alex
>>>>>
>>>>> On 8/8/14, Greg Wocher <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>> I really like the third voice. What voice is it? The first one is not
>>>>>> bad either.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Greg Wocher
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Follow me on Twitter @GWocher
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 8/8/2014 1:29 AM, Michael Curran wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you haven't yet seen on Twitter or the freelists list, we are
>>>>>>> currently running a survey in order to help us identify how we can
>>>>>>> improve NVDA's default voice.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The survey can be found here:
>>>>>>> http://www.nvaccess.org/speech-synthesizer-survey-1/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Listen to the speech samples on the page, and then answer the
>>> questions
>>>>>>> at the end.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks for your input.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mick
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nvda-devel
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>>>>>
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Re: Help us improve the default NVDA voice

Bhavya shah
Hi.
If the second sample is NV Speech Player I will sy that I didn't like
it very much.
Its flow of speech is not good. I have to strain my ears and brain to
understand and grasp what it said.
Has anyone here tested the Steph variant shared recently by Brian Sir?
It is amazing and pleasant. The only issue with it is that it is very
soft. If this issue could be resolved then I feel that it has the
capability to become more popular than all other variants, even Max!

On 8/9/14, Brandon Misch <[hidden email]> wrote:

> the second sample is a product known as nv speech player. Currently a
> prototype but is available as a nvda add-on for those interested.
> Only english is supported at this time.
>
> On Aug 9, 2014, at 8:22 AM, luigi <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> The second sample is not espeak, or it has some changes in the
>> intonations!
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Bhavya shah" <[hidden email]>
>> To: "NVDA screen reader development" <[hidden email]>
>> Sent: Friday, August 08, 2014 6:53 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Nvda-devel] Help us improve the default NVDA voice
>>
>>
>> Hi.
>> If ESpeak doesn't speak Spanish nicely then its ESpeak's lapse not
>> NVDA's. Contacting the ESpeak developers would be a better idea.
>> Here we are discussing about the various variants.
>> Please correct me if I am wrong.
>>
>>
>> On 8/8/14, mk360 <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>> Same problem here. For me espeak is one of the best synthetizers in
>>> english, but it's spanish is not so good.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> mk.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 10:34 AM, Vincent LE GOFF <
>>> [hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>
>>>> I've filled the form and won't explain my choice here.  But I have a
>>>> question about the survey, a question some person asked before me:
>>>> English samples are good, but what about all the users who have
>>>> different languages switched on?  For instance, the espeak voice
>>>> currently used is not unpleasant in English, but, in my opinion at
>>>> least, horrible in French.  I guess that it would be hard to find a
>>>> synthetizer that would sound good no matter the used language... still,
>>>> providing other samples in other languages (perhaps asking the user's
>>>> language at the beginning of the survey) could be a good idea.
>>>>
>>>> I don't know if Google Forms can do that.  Just suggesting.
>>>>
>>>> Happy hacking,
>>>>
>>>> Vincent
>>>> Le 08/08/2014 16:16, Bhavya shah a écrit :
>>>>> Hi.
>>>>> I have filled the form.
>>>>> However some comments.
>>>>> Does anyone find Sample 5 more like a human but an old man? If
>>>>> something could be done about it then it would be great.
>>>>> Sample 2 was even more human sounding but somehow I wasn't being able
>>>>> to catch all its words and till the time it had completed the sentence
>>>>> I had already forgot what I had read.
>>>>> Sample 1 and 3 are nice but I still like Max the best.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 8/8/14, Alex H. <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I enjoy samples 3 and 5. 5 sort of reminds me of Orpheus and would
>>>>>> probably do excellent and US English cranked up to a fast rate. Is
>>>>>> that a new Espeak variant, or something else?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks and keep up the great work guys.
>>>>>> Alex
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 8/8/14, Greg Wocher <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>> I really like the third voice. What voice is it? The first one is
>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>> bad either.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> Greg Wocher
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Follow me on Twitter @GWocher
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 8/8/2014 1:29 AM, Michael Curran wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If you haven't yet seen on Twitter or the freelists list, we are
>>>>>>>> currently running a survey in order to help us identify how we can
>>>>>>>> improve NVDA's default voice.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The survey can be found here:
>>>>>>>> http://www.nvaccess.org/speech-synthesizer-survey-1/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Listen to the speech samples on the page, and then answer the
>>>> questions
>>>>>>>> at the end.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks for your input.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Mick
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> search up to 200,000 lines of code with a free copy of Black Duck
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Re: Help us improve the default NVDA voice

RJ Sandefur
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I like the third voice. RJ
----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2014 9:17 AM
Subject: Re: [Nvda-devel] Help us improve the default NVDA voice


the second sample is a product known as nv speech player. Currently a
prototype but is available as a nvda add-on for those interested.
Only english is supported at this time.

On Aug 9, 2014, at 8:22 AM, luigi <[hidden email]> wrote:

> The second sample is not espeak, or it has some changes in the
> intonations!
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bhavya shah" <[hidden email]>
> To: "NVDA screen reader development" <[hidden email]>
> Sent: Friday, August 08, 2014 6:53 PM
> Subject: Re: [Nvda-devel] Help us improve the default NVDA voice
>
>
> Hi.
> If ESpeak doesn't speak Spanish nicely then its ESpeak's lapse not
> NVDA's. Contacting the ESpeak developers would be a better idea.
> Here we are discussing about the various variants.
> Please correct me if I am wrong.
>
>
> On 8/8/14, mk360 <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> Same problem here. For me espeak is one of the best synthetizers in
>> english, but it's spanish is not so good.
>>
>> Regards,
>> mk.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 10:34 AM, Vincent LE GOFF <
>> [hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi everyone,
>>>
>>> I've filled the form and won't explain my choice here.  But I have a
>>> question about the survey, a question some person asked before me:
>>> English samples are good, but what about all the users who have
>>> different languages switched on?  For instance, the espeak voice
>>> currently used is not unpleasant in English, but, in my opinion at
>>> least, horrible in French.  I guess that it would be hard to find a
>>> synthetizer that would sound good no matter the used language... still,
>>> providing other samples in other languages (perhaps asking the user's
>>> language at the beginning of the survey) could be a good idea.
>>>
>>> I don't know if Google Forms can do that.  Just suggesting.
>>>
>>> Happy hacking,
>>>
>>> Vincent
>>> Le 08/08/2014 16:16, Bhavya shah a écrit :
>>>> Hi.
>>>> I have filled the form.
>>>> However some comments.
>>>> Does anyone find Sample 5 more like a human but an old man? If
>>>> something could be done about it then it would be great.
>>>> Sample 2 was even more human sounding but somehow I wasn't being able
>>>> to catch all its words and till the time it had completed the sentence
>>>> I had already forgot what I had read.
>>>> Sample 1 and 3 are nice but I still like Max the best.
>>>>
>>>> On 8/8/14, Alex H. <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>
>>>>> I enjoy samples 3 and 5. 5 sort of reminds me of Orpheus and would
>>>>> probably do excellent and US English cranked up to a fast rate. Is
>>>>> that a new Espeak variant, or something else?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks and keep up the great work guys.
>>>>> Alex
>>>>>
>>>>> On 8/8/14, Greg Wocher <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>> I really like the third voice. What voice is it? The first one is not
>>>>>> bad either.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Greg Wocher
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Follow me on Twitter @GWocher
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 8/8/2014 1:29 AM, Michael Curran wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you haven't yet seen on Twitter or the freelists list, we are
>>>>>>> currently running a survey in order to help us identify how we can
>>>>>>> improve NVDA's default voice.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The survey can be found here:
>>>>>>> http://www.nvaccess.org/speech-synthesizer-survey-1/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Listen to the speech samples on the page, and then answer the
>>> questions
>>>>>>> at the end.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks for your input.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mick
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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Re: Help us improve the default NVDA voice

Greg Wocher
In reply to this post by Bhavya shah
Hello,
I just tried out the Steph variant this morning and I too find it very
good. The only issue is that it is to soft and I need to crank my
computers volume way up to hear it. If this is fixed I could see using
Steph as my default voice when I use NVDA and espeak.

Greg Wocher

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On 8/9/2014 10:22 AM, Bhavya shah wrote:

> Hi.
> If the second sample is NV Speech Player I will sy that I didn't like
> it very much.
> Its flow of speech is not good. I have to strain my ears and brain to
> understand and grasp what it said.
> Has anyone here tested the Steph variant shared recently by Brian Sir?
> It is amazing and pleasant. The only issue with it is that it is very
> soft. If this issue could be resolved then I feel that it has the
> capability to become more popular than all other variants, even Max!
>
> On 8/9/14, Brandon Misch <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> the second sample is a product known as nv speech player. Currently a
>> prototype but is available as a nvda add-on for those interested.
>> Only english is supported at this time.
>>
>> On Aug 9, 2014, at 8:22 AM, luigi <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>>> The second sample is not espeak, or it has some changes in the
>>> intonations!
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Bhavya shah" <[hidden email]>
>>> To: "NVDA screen reader development" <[hidden email]>
>>> Sent: Friday, August 08, 2014 6:53 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Nvda-devel] Help us improve the default NVDA voice
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi.
>>> If ESpeak doesn't speak Spanish nicely then its ESpeak's lapse not
>>> NVDA's. Contacting the ESpeak developers would be a better idea.
>>> Here we are discussing about the various variants.
>>> Please correct me if I am wrong.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 8/8/14, mk360 <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>> Same problem here. For me espeak is one of the best synthetizers in
>>>> english, but it's spanish is not so good.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> mk.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 10:34 AM, Vincent LE GOFF <
>>>> [hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>>
>>>>> I've filled the form and won't explain my choice here.  But I have a
>>>>> question about the survey, a question some person asked before me:
>>>>> English samples are good, but what about all the users who have
>>>>> different languages switched on?  For instance, the espeak voice
>>>>> currently used is not unpleasant in English, but, in my opinion at
>>>>> least, horrible in French.  I guess that it would be hard to find a
>>>>> synthetizer that would sound good no matter the used language... still,
>>>>> providing other samples in other languages (perhaps asking the user's
>>>>> language at the beginning of the survey) could be a good idea.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't know if Google Forms can do that.  Just suggesting.
>>>>>
>>>>> Happy hacking,
>>>>>
>>>>> Vincent
>>>>> Le 08/08/2014 16:16, Bhavya shah a écrit :
>>>>>> Hi.
>>>>>> I have filled the form.
>>>>>> However some comments.
>>>>>> Does anyone find Sample 5 more like a human but an old man? If
>>>>>> something could be done about it then it would be great.
>>>>>> Sample 2 was even more human sounding but somehow I wasn't being able
>>>>>> to catch all its words and till the time it had completed the sentence
>>>>>> I had already forgot what I had read.
>>>>>> Sample 1 and 3 are nice but I still like Max the best.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 8/8/14, Alex H. <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I enjoy samples 3 and 5. 5 sort of reminds me of Orpheus and would
>>>>>>> probably do excellent and US English cranked up to a fast rate. Is
>>>>>>> that a new Espeak variant, or something else?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks and keep up the great work guys.
>>>>>>> Alex
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 8/8/14, Greg Wocher <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>> I really like the third voice. What voice is it? The first one is
>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>> bad either.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>> Greg Wocher
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 8/8/2014 1:29 AM, Michael Curran wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If you haven't yet seen on Twitter or the freelists list, we are
>>>>>>>>> currently running a survey in order to help us identify how we can
>>>>>>>>> improve NVDA's default voice.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The survey can be found here:
>>>>>>>>> http://www.nvaccess.org/speech-synthesizer-survey-1/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Listen to the speech samples on the page, and then answer the
>>>>> questions
>>>>>>>>> at the end.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks for your input.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Mick
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
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