Addon updates blocking NVDA speech.
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Addon updates blocking NVDA speech.
 
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Hi all. I've encountered this a couple of times now, both with the
Weather Plus and Windows 10 App Essentials addons. When my computer boots up and NVDA loads, if there's an update to one of these addons, a dialogue comes up asking if I want to download the update or informing me that there is one. This seems to stop NVDA from reacting to quite a lot, e.g. hitting NVDA-T to read the windows title does nothing, alt-tab doesn't read window titles, and so on. I know NVDA is loaded and working because if my wife uses the mouse it will read text she moves the mouse over. As soon as we dismiss the dialogue, NVDA works just fine, like it always does. This is on Windows 10 64-bit, both anniversary and creator's, with NVDA 2017.1, I just updated to 207.2 and haven't gotten any update messages yet. Is there a way around this? If not I don't know who would deal with fixing the issue but I figured I'd report it here. The only reason I found out what was happening is because my wife can see so I booted up when she got home the first time it happened. Otherwise, it would have been as though NVDA suddenly stopped working for no apparent reason, kind of disconcerting really. And of course even now that I know what's happening, it's kind of hit or miss to get to the right window and hit the right key combo, alt-O or alt-Y or whatever, to dismiss the dialogue. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot _______________________________________________ Nvda-devel mailing list [hidden email] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nvda-devel |
Re: Addon updates blocking NVDA speech.
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Hi,
Are there experiencing this issue with at least WinTenApps? If so, please do let me know as soon as possible. Cheers, Joseph -----Original Message----- From: John Isige [mailto:[hidden email]] Sent: Wednesday, June 7, 2017 7:10 PM To: NVDA screen reader development <[hidden email]> Subject: [Nvda-devel] Addon updates blocking NVDA speech. Hi all. I've encountered this a couple of times now, both with the Weather Plus and Windows 10 App Essentials addons. When my computer boots up and NVDA loads, if there's an update to one of these addons, a dialogue comes up asking if I want to download the update or informing me that there is one. This seems to stop NVDA from reacting to quite a lot, e.g. hitting NVDA-T to read the windows title does nothing, alt-tab doesn't read window titles, and so on. I know NVDA is loaded and working because if my wife uses the mouse it will read text she moves the mouse over. As soon as we dismiss the dialogue, NVDA works just fine, like it always does. This is on Windows 10 64-bit, both anniversary and creator's, with NVDA 2017.1, I just updated to 207.2 and haven't gotten any update messages yet. Is there a way around this? If not I don't know who would deal with fixing the issue but I figured I'd report it here. The only reason I found out what was happening is because my wife can see so I booted up when she got home the first time it happened. Otherwise, it would have been as though NVDA suddenly stopped working for no apparent reason, kind of disconcerting really. And of course even now that I know what's happening, it's kind of hit or miss to get to the right window and hit the right key combo, alt-O or alt-Y or whatever, to dismiss the dialogue. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot _______________________________________________ Nvda-devel mailing list [hidden email] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nvda-devel ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot _______________________________________________ Nvda-devel mailing list [hidden email] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nvda-devel |
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Joseph? Are you using core.callLater here? On Wed, Jun 7, 2017 at 8:46 PM, Joseph Lee <[hidden email]> wrote: Hi, Derek Riemer: Improving the world one byte at a time!
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Hi, No, as I found issues with it. Cheers, Joseph From: Derek Riemer [mailto:[hidden email]] Joseph? Are you using core.callLater here? On Wed, Jun 7, 2017 at 8:46 PM, Joseph Lee <[hidden email]> wrote:
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Okay, are you queuing your dialog in a wx.CallAfter, or queueHandler.queueFunction? 1 is prefered. I'd be curious to know because tip of the day had this problem, and it was dueue to the gugui being presented before NVDA was ready for it. On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 12:07 AM, Joseph Lee <[hidden email]> wrote:
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Hi, I’m using wx.CallAfter. Cheers, Joseph From: Derek Riemer [mailto:[hidden email]] Okay, are you queuing your dialog in a wx.CallAfter, or queueHandler.queueFunction? 1 is prefered. I'd be curious to know because tip of the day had this problem, and it was dueue to the gugui being presented before NVDA was ready for it. On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 12:07 AM, Joseph Lee <[hidden email]> wrote:
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To be fair, I don't think App Essentials causes the problem, although it
hasn't mentioned an update again since failing to download it when I first posted about it, so it's hard to be sure. I'll bet Weather Plus is doing the other way though. I know that definitely does it because it happened three or four times between two different machines. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot _______________________________________________ Nvda-devel mailing list [hidden email] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nvda-devel |
Re: Addon updates blocking NVDA speech.
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Hi,
So WinTenApps is failing to download updates? That's strange, because the latest snapshot right now is the june 13th snapshot, and the latest stable is 17.06.1. Cheers, Joseph -----Original Message----- From: John Isige [mailto:[hidden email]] Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 11:38 AM To: NVDA screen reader development <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [Nvda-devel] Addon updates blocking NVDA speech. To be fair, I don't think App Essentials causes the problem, although it hasn't mentioned an update again since failing to download it when I first posted about it, so it's hard to be sure. I'll bet Weather Plus is doing the other way though. I know that definitely does it because it happened three or four times between two different machines. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot _______________________________________________ Nvda-devel mailing list [hidden email] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nvda-devel ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot _______________________________________________ Nvda-devel mailing list [hidden email] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nvda-devel |
Re: Addon updates blocking NVDA speech.
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I'm apparently still on 17.05.1. Strange that it hasn't checked lately.
I was waiting for it to check before posting anything further about the issue. But looking at Weather Plus, assuming I'm reading the code right, it uses the right thing too. return wx.CallLater(100, wx.MessageBox, '%s %s.\r\n%s' % (_("An update is available for"), _addonSummary, _("Click on the Check for updates menu to download it.")), title, wx.ICON_INFORMATION) On 6/13/2017 13:47, Joseph Lee wrote: > Hi, > So WinTenApps is failing to download updates? That's strange, because the > latest snapshot right now is the june 13th snapshot, and the latest stable > is 17.06.1. > Cheers, > Joseph > > -----Original Message----- > From: John Isige [mailto:[hidden email]] > Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 11:38 AM > To: NVDA screen reader development <[hidden email]> > Subject: Re: [Nvda-devel] Addon updates blocking NVDA speech. > > To be fair, I don't think App Essentials causes the problem, although it > hasn't mentioned an update again since failing to download it when I first > posted about it, so it's hard to be sure. I'll bet Weather Plus is doing the > other way though. I know that definitely does it because it happened three > or four times between two different machines. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging > tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > _______________________________________________ > Nvda-devel mailing list > [hidden email] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nvda-devel > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > _______________________________________________ > Nvda-devel mailing list > [hidden email] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nvda-devel ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot _______________________________________________ Nvda-devel mailing list [hidden email] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nvda-devel |
Re: Addon updates blocking NVDA speech.
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Hi,
I'm out of ideas at this point. Cheers, Joseph -----Original Message----- From: John Isige [mailto:[hidden email]] Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 1:43 PM To: NVDA screen reader development <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [Nvda-devel] Addon updates blocking NVDA speech. I'm apparently still on 17.05.1. Strange that it hasn't checked lately. I was waiting for it to check before posting anything further about the issue. But looking at Weather Plus, assuming I'm reading the code right, it uses the right thing too. return wx.CallLater(100, wx.MessageBox, '%s %s.\r\n%s' % (_("An update is available for"), _addonSummary, _("Click on the Check for updates menu to download it.")), title, wx.ICON_INFORMATION) On 6/13/2017 13:47, Joseph Lee wrote: > Hi, > So WinTenApps is failing to download updates? That's strange, because the > latest snapshot right now is the june 13th snapshot, and the latest stable > is 17.06.1. > Cheers, > Joseph > > -----Original Message----- > From: John Isige [mailto:[hidden email]] > Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 11:38 AM > To: NVDA screen reader development <[hidden email]> > Subject: Re: [Nvda-devel] Addon updates blocking NVDA speech. > > To be fair, I don't think App Essentials causes the problem, although it > hasn't mentioned an update again since failing to download it when I first > posted about it, so it's hard to be sure. I'll bet Weather Plus is doing > other way though. I know that definitely does it because it happened three > or four times between two different machines. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging > tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > _______________________________________________ > Nvda-devel mailing list > [hidden email] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nvda-devel > > > -- > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > _______________________________________________ > Nvda-devel mailing list > [hidden email] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nvda-devel ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot _______________________________________________ Nvda-devel mailing list [hidden email] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nvda-devel ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot _______________________________________________ Nvda-devel mailing list [hidden email] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nvda-devel |
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