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John Isige
Hi all. I've encountered this a couple of times now, both with the
Weather Plus and Windows 10 App Essentials addons. When my computer
boots up and NVDA loads, if there's an update to one of these addons, a
dialogue comes up asking if I want to download the update or informing
me that there is one. This seems to stop NVDA from reacting to quite a
lot, e.g. hitting NVDA-T to read the windows title does nothing, alt-tab
doesn't read window titles, and so on. I know NVDA is loaded and working
because if my wife uses the mouse it will read text she moves the mouse
over. As soon as we dismiss the dialogue, NVDA works just fine, like it
always does. This is on Windows 10 64-bit, both anniversary and
creator's, with NVDA 2017.1, I just updated to 207.2 and haven't gotten
any update messages yet.


Is there a way around this? If not I don't know who would deal with
fixing the issue but I figured I'd report it here. The only reason I
found out what was happening is because my wife can see so I booted up
when she got home the first time it happened. Otherwise, it would have
been as though NVDA suddenly stopped working for no apparent reason,
kind of disconcerting really. And of course even now that I know what's
happening, it's kind of hit or miss to get to the right window and hit
the right key combo, alt-O or alt-Y or whatever, to dismiss the dialogue.


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Re: Addon updates blocking NVDA speech.

Joseph Lee
Hi,
Are there experiencing this issue with at least WinTenApps? If so, please do
let me know as soon as possible.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: John Isige [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 7, 2017 7:10 PM
To: NVDA screen reader development <[hidden email]>
Subject: [Nvda-devel] Addon updates blocking NVDA speech.

Hi all. I've encountered this a couple of times now, both with the Weather
Plus and Windows 10 App Essentials addons. When my computer boots up and
NVDA loads, if there's an update to one of these addons, a dialogue comes up
asking if I want to download the update or informing me that there is one.
This seems to stop NVDA from reacting to quite a lot, e.g. hitting NVDA-T to
read the windows title does nothing, alt-tab doesn't read window titles, and
so on. I know NVDA is loaded and working because if my wife uses the mouse
it will read text she moves the mouse over. As soon as we dismiss the
dialogue, NVDA works just fine, like it always does. This is on Windows 10
64-bit, both anniversary and creator's, with NVDA 2017.1, I just updated to
207.2 and haven't gotten any update messages yet.


Is there a way around this? If not I don't know who would deal with fixing
the issue but I figured I'd report it here. The only reason I found out what
was happening is because my wife can see so I booted up when she got home
the first time it happened. Otherwise, it would have been as though NVDA
suddenly stopped working for no apparent reason, kind of disconcerting
really. And of course even now that I know what's happening, it's kind of
hit or miss to get to the right window and hit the right key combo, alt-O or
alt-Y or whatever, to dismiss the dialogue.


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Re: Addon updates blocking NVDA speech.

derek riemer
Joseph? Are you using core.callLater here?

On Wed, Jun 7, 2017 at 8:46 PM, Joseph Lee <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi,
Are there experiencing this issue with at least WinTenApps? If so, please do
let me know as soon as possible.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: John Isige [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 7, 2017 7:10 PM
To: NVDA screen reader development <[hidden email]>
Subject: [Nvda-devel] Addon updates blocking NVDA speech.

Hi all. I've encountered this a couple of times now, both with the Weather
Plus and Windows 10 App Essentials addons. When my computer boots up and
NVDA loads, if there's an update to one of these addons, a dialogue comes up
asking if I want to download the update or informing me that there is one.
This seems to stop NVDA from reacting to quite a lot, e.g. hitting NVDA-T to
read the windows title does nothing, alt-tab doesn't read window titles, and
so on. I know NVDA is loaded and working because if my wife uses the mouse
it will read text she moves the mouse over. As soon as we dismiss the
dialogue, NVDA works just fine, like it always does. This is on Windows 10
64-bit, both anniversary and creator's, with NVDA 2017.1, I just updated to
207.2 and haven't gotten any update messages yet.


Is there a way around this? If not I don't know who would deal with fixing
the issue but I figured I'd report it here. The only reason I found out what
was happening is because my wife can see so I booted up when she got home
the first time it happened. Otherwise, it would have been as though NVDA
suddenly stopped working for no apparent reason, kind of disconcerting
really. And of course even now that I know what's happening, it's kind of
hit or miss to get to the right window and hit the right key combo, alt-O or
alt-Y or whatever, to dismiss the dialogue.


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Re: Addon updates blocking NVDA speech.

Joseph Lee

Hi,

No, as I found issues with it.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: Derek Riemer [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2017 11:02 PM
To: NVDA screen reader development <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [Nvda-devel] Addon updates blocking NVDA speech.

 

Joseph? Are you using core.callLater here?

 

On Wed, Jun 7, 2017 at 8:46 PM, Joseph Lee <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hi,
Are there experiencing this issue with at least WinTenApps? If so, please do
let me know as soon as possible.
Cheers,
Joseph


-----Original Message-----
From: John Isige [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 7, 2017 7:10 PM
To: NVDA screen reader development <[hidden email]>
Subject: [Nvda-devel] Addon updates blocking NVDA speech.

Hi all. I've encountered this a couple of times now, both with the Weather
Plus and Windows 10 App Essentials addons. When my computer boots up and
NVDA loads, if there's an update to one of these addons, a dialogue comes up
asking if I want to download the update or informing me that there is one.
This seems to stop NVDA from reacting to quite a lot, e.g. hitting NVDA-T to
read the windows title does nothing, alt-tab doesn't read window titles, and
so on. I know NVDA is loaded and working because if my wife uses the mouse
it will read text she moves the mouse over. As soon as we dismiss the
dialogue, NVDA works just fine, like it always does. This is on Windows 10
64-bit, both anniversary and creator's, with NVDA 2017.1, I just updated to
207.2 and haven't gotten any update messages yet.


Is there a way around this? If not I don't know who would deal with fixing
the issue but I figured I'd report it here. The only reason I found out what
was happening is because my wife can see so I booted up when she got home
the first time it happened. Otherwise, it would have been as though NVDA
suddenly stopped working for no apparent reason, kind of disconcerting
really. And of course even now that I know what's happening, it's kind of
hit or miss to get to the right window and hit the right key combo, alt-O or
alt-Y or whatever, to dismiss the dialogue.


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Re: Addon updates blocking NVDA speech.

derek riemer
Okay, are you queuing your dialog in a wx.CallAfter, or queueHandler.queueFunction? 1 is prefered. I'd be curious to know because tip of the day had this problem, and it was dueue to the gugui being presented before NVDA was ready for it.

On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 12:07 AM, Joseph Lee <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hi,

No, as I found issues with it.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: Derek Riemer [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2017 11:02 PM
To: NVDA screen reader development <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [Nvda-devel] Addon updates blocking NVDA speech.

 

Joseph? Are you using core.callLater here?

 

On Wed, Jun 7, 2017 at 8:46 PM, Joseph Lee <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hi,
Are there experiencing this issue with at least WinTenApps? If so, please do
let me know as soon as possible.
Cheers,
Joseph


-----Original Message-----
From: John Isige [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 7, 2017 7:10 PM
To: NVDA screen reader development <[hidden email]>
Subject: [Nvda-devel] Addon updates blocking NVDA speech.

Hi all. I've encountered this a couple of times now, both with the Weather
Plus and Windows 10 App Essentials addons. When my computer boots up and
NVDA loads, if there's an update to one of these addons, a dialogue comes up
asking if I want to download the update or informing me that there is one.
This seems to stop NVDA from reacting to quite a lot, e.g. hitting NVDA-T to
read the windows title does nothing, alt-tab doesn't read window titles, and
so on. I know NVDA is loaded and working because if my wife uses the mouse
it will read text she moves the mouse over. As soon as we dismiss the
dialogue, NVDA works just fine, like it always does. This is on Windows 10
64-bit, both anniversary and creator's, with NVDA 2017.1, I just updated to
207.2 and haven't gotten any update messages yet.


Is there a way around this? If not I don't know who would deal with fixing
the issue but I figured I'd report it here. The only reason I found out what
was happening is because my wife can see so I booted up when she got home
the first time it happened. Otherwise, it would have been as though NVDA
suddenly stopped working for no apparent reason, kind of disconcerting
really. And of course even now that I know what's happening, it's kind of
hit or miss to get to the right window and hit the right key combo, alt-O or
alt-Y or whatever, to dismiss the dialogue.


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Re: Addon updates blocking NVDA speech.

Joseph Lee

Hi,

I’m using wx.CallAfter.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: Derek Riemer [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Monday, June 12, 2017 7:19 PM
To: NVDA screen reader development <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [Nvda-devel] Addon updates blocking NVDA speech.

 

Okay, are you queuing your dialog in a wx.CallAfter, or queueHandler.queueFunction? 1 is prefered. I'd be curious to know because tip of the day had this problem, and it was dueue to the gugui being presented before NVDA was ready for it.

 

On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 12:07 AM, Joseph Lee <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hi,

No, as I found issues with it.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: Derek Riemer [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2017 11:02 PM
To: NVDA screen reader development <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [Nvda-devel] Addon updates blocking NVDA speech.

 

Joseph? Are you using core.callLater here?

 

On Wed, Jun 7, 2017 at 8:46 PM, Joseph Lee <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hi,
Are there experiencing this issue with at least WinTenApps? If so, please do
let me know as soon as possible.
Cheers,
Joseph


-----Original Message-----
From: John Isige [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 7, 2017 7:10 PM
To: NVDA screen reader development <[hidden email]>
Subject: [Nvda-devel] Addon updates blocking NVDA speech.

Hi all. I've encountered this a couple of times now, both with the Weather
Plus and Windows 10 App Essentials addons. When my computer boots up and
NVDA loads, if there's an update to one of these addons, a dialogue comes up
asking if I want to download the update or informing me that there is one.
This seems to stop NVDA from reacting to quite a lot, e.g. hitting NVDA-T to
read the windows title does nothing, alt-tab doesn't read window titles, and
so on. I know NVDA is loaded and working because if my wife uses the mouse
it will read text she moves the mouse over. As soon as we dismiss the
dialogue, NVDA works just fine, like it always does. This is on Windows 10
64-bit, both anniversary and creator's, with NVDA 2017.1, I just updated to
207.2 and haven't gotten any update messages yet.


Is there a way around this? If not I don't know who would deal with fixing
the issue but I figured I'd report it here. The only reason I found out what
was happening is because my wife can see so I booted up when she got home
the first time it happened. Otherwise, it would have been as though NVDA
suddenly stopped working for no apparent reason, kind of disconcerting
really. And of course even now that I know what's happening, it's kind of
hit or miss to get to the right window and hit the right key combo, alt-O or
alt-Y or whatever, to dismiss the dialogue.


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Re: Addon updates blocking NVDA speech.

John Isige
To be fair, I don't think App Essentials causes the problem, although it
hasn't mentioned an update again since failing to download it when I
first posted about it, so it's hard to be sure. I'll bet Weather Plus is
doing the other way though. I know that definitely does it because it
happened three or four times between two different machines.

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Re: Addon updates blocking NVDA speech.

Joseph Lee
Hi,
So WinTenApps is failing to download updates? That's strange, because the
latest snapshot right now is the june 13th snapshot, and the latest stable
is 17.06.1.
Cheers,
Joseph

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Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 11:38 AM
To: NVDA screen reader development <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [Nvda-devel] Addon updates blocking NVDA speech.

To be fair, I don't think App Essentials causes the problem, although it
hasn't mentioned an update again since failing to download it when I first
posted about it, so it's hard to be sure. I'll bet Weather Plus is doing the
other way though. I know that definitely does it because it happened three
or four times between two different machines.

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Re: Addon updates blocking NVDA speech.

John Isige
I'm apparently still on 17.05.1. Strange that it hasn't checked lately.
I was waiting for it to check before posting anything further about the
issue. But looking at Weather Plus, assuming I'm reading the code right,
it uses the right thing too.


                 return wx.CallLater(100, wx.MessageBox, '%s %s.\r\n%s'
% (_("An update is available for"), _addonSummary, _("Click on the Check
for updates menu to download it.")), title, wx.ICON_INFORMATION)


On 6/13/2017 13:47, Joseph Lee wrote:

> Hi,
> So WinTenApps is failing to download updates? That's strange, because the
> latest snapshot right now is the june 13th snapshot, and the latest stable
> is 17.06.1.
> Cheers,
> Joseph
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Isige [mailto:[hidden email]]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 11:38 AM
> To: NVDA screen reader development <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [Nvda-devel] Addon updates blocking NVDA speech.
>
> To be fair, I don't think App Essentials causes the problem, although it
> hasn't mentioned an update again since failing to download it when I first
> posted about it, so it's hard to be sure. I'll bet Weather Plus is doing the
> other way though. I know that definitely does it because it happened three
> or four times between two different machines.
>
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Re: Addon updates blocking NVDA speech.

Joseph Lee
Hi,
I'm out of ideas at this point.
Cheers,
Joseph

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From: John Isige [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 1:43 PM
To: NVDA screen reader development <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [Nvda-devel] Addon updates blocking NVDA speech.

I'm apparently still on 17.05.1. Strange that it hasn't checked lately.
I was waiting for it to check before posting anything further about the
issue. But looking at Weather Plus, assuming I'm reading the code right, it
uses the right thing too.


                 return wx.CallLater(100, wx.MessageBox, '%s %s.\r\n%s'
% (_("An update is available for"), _addonSummary, _("Click on the Check for
updates menu to download it.")), title, wx.ICON_INFORMATION)


On 6/13/2017 13:47, Joseph Lee wrote:

> Hi,
> So WinTenApps is failing to download updates? That's strange, because the
> latest snapshot right now is the june 13th snapshot, and the latest stable
> is 17.06.1.
> Cheers,
> Joseph
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Isige [mailto:[hidden email]]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 11:38 AM
> To: NVDA screen reader development <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [Nvda-devel] Addon updates blocking NVDA speech.
>
> To be fair, I don't think App Essentials causes the problem, although it
> hasn't mentioned an update again since failing to download it when I first
> posted about it, so it's hard to be sure. I'll bet Weather Plus is doing
the
> other way though. I know that definitely does it because it happened three
> or four times between two different machines.
>
>
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