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Robert Spangler
Hello all,

What is the current state of accessibility for Google Docs?

Thanks,
Rob

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Re: Accessibility of Google Docs

Marco Zehe
Hi Rob,

it is improving by magnitudes. Using NVDA and Firefox, when turning of
browse mode in NVDA and turning on screen reader support in Docs, you
can do a huge lot through speech output.

Firefox 30, due out in two weeks, will also fix an issue that will allow
Google to update Docs with a change that will enable braille support.
They're just waiting until Firefox 30 is released, which will happen on
June 10.

Marco

Am 27.05.2014 13:16, schrieb Robert Spangler:

> Hello all,
>
> What is the current state of accessibility for Google Docs?
>
> Thanks,
> Rob
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Re: Accessibility of Google Docs

mk360
Hi,

How I enable accessibility mode in google docs? I'm trying with ctrl
alt z, but nothing happens.

Regards,
mk.

On 5/27/14, Marco Zehe <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi Rob,
>
> it is improving by magnitudes. Using NVDA and Firefox, when turning of
> browse mode in NVDA and turning on screen reader support in Docs, you
> can do a huge lot through speech output.
>
> Firefox 30, due out in two weeks, will also fix an issue that will allow
> Google to update Docs with a change that will enable braille support.
> They're just waiting until Firefox 30 is released, which will happen on
> June 10.
>
> Marco
>
> Am 27.05.2014 13:16, schrieb Robert Spangler:
>> Hello all,
>>
>> What is the current state of accessibility for Google Docs?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Rob
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Re: Accessibility of Google Docs

Sarah Alawami
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I have not yet tested it with nvda, how ever on the mac side of things it needs a lot of  work in all browsers. Even wiht accessibilty mode on, all text that you tabbed past is still read even though you are not there anymore. For example it might read the form you just write then read the choices you have and every time you down arrow you have plenty of issues.

So for me it needs a lot fo work before I can give it an A. Right  now it gets a big fat D.

> On May 27, 2014, at 4:45, Marco Zehe <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Hi Rob,
>
> it is improving by magnitudes. Using NVDA and Firefox, when turning of
> browse mode in NVDA and turning on screen reader support in Docs, you
> can do a huge lot through speech output.
>
> Firefox 30, due out in two weeks, will also fix an issue that will allow
> Google to update Docs with a change that will enable braille support.
> They're just waiting until Firefox 30 is released, which will happen on
> June 10.
>
> Marco
>
> Am 27.05.2014 13:16, schrieb Robert Spangler:
>> Hello all,
>>
>> What is the current state of accessibility for Google Docs?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Rob
>>
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Re: Accessibility of Google Docs

RJ Sandefur
It's not accessible with Jaws nor window eyes! RJ
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sarah k Alawami" <[hidden email]>
To: "NVDA screen reader development" <[hidden email]>
Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 10:22 AM
Subject: Re: [Nvda-devel] Accessibility of Google Docs


>I have not yet tested it with nvda, how ever on the mac side of things it
>needs a lot of  work in all browsers. Even wiht accessibilty mode on, all
>text that you tabbed past is still read even though you are not there
>anymore. For example it might read the form you just write then read the
>choices you have and every time you down arrow you have plenty of issues.
>
> So for me it needs a lot fo work before I can give it an A. Right  now it
> gets a big fat D.
>
>> On May 27, 2014, at 4:45, Marco Zehe <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Rob,
>>
>> it is improving by magnitudes. Using NVDA and Firefox, when turning of
>> browse mode in NVDA and turning on screen reader support in Docs, you
>> can do a huge lot through speech output.
>>
>> Firefox 30, due out in two weeks, will also fix an issue that will allow
>> Google to update Docs with a change that will enable braille support.
>> They're just waiting until Firefox 30 is released, which will happen on
>> June 10.
>>
>> Marco
>>
>> Am 27.05.2014 13:16, schrieb Robert Spangler:
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>> What is the current state of accessibility for Google Docs?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Rob
>>>
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Re: Accessibility of Google Docs

Sarah Alawami
Well, beeing this is for the development of NVDA I would contact the respective owners of the other screen readers and explain wht needs to be done.

Good luck.
On May 28, 2014, at 7:35 AM, RJ Sandefur <[hidden email]> wrote:

> It's not accessible with Jaws nor window eyes! RJ
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Sarah k Alawami" <[hidden email]>
> To: "NVDA screen reader development" <[hidden email]>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 10:22 AM
> Subject: Re: [Nvda-devel] Accessibility of Google Docs
>
>
>> I have not yet tested it with nvda, how ever on the mac side of things it
>> needs a lot of  work in all browsers. Even wiht accessibilty mode on, all
>> text that you tabbed past is still read even though you are not there
>> anymore. For example it might read the form you just write then read the
>> choices you have and every time you down arrow you have plenty of issues.
>>
>> So for me it needs a lot fo work before I can give it an A. Right  now it
>> gets a big fat D.
>>
>>> On May 27, 2014, at 4:45, Marco Zehe <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Rob,
>>>
>>> it is improving by magnitudes. Using NVDA and Firefox, when turning of
>>> browse mode in NVDA and turning on screen reader support in Docs, you
>>> can do a huge lot through speech output.
>>>
>>> Firefox 30, due out in two weeks, will also fix an issue that will allow
>>> Google to update Docs with a change that will enable braille support.
>>> They're just waiting until Firefox 30 is released, which will happen on
>>> June 10.
>>>
>>> Marco
>>>
>>> Am 27.05.2014 13:16, schrieb Robert Spangler:
>>>> Hello all,
>>>>
>>>> What is the current state of accessibility for Google Docs?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Rob
>>>>
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Re: Accessibility of Google Docs

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I barely get it to work with any screen reader.  When it loads, it says
that I'm online and to press ctrl+alt+z for screen reader mode but it
does not indicate whether it is in screen reader mode or not when
pressing this keystroke.  Also, arrowing around produces very little of
anything.


On 5/28/2014 10:35 AM, RJ Sandefur wrote:

> It's not accessible with Jaws nor window eyes! RJ
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Sarah k Alawami" <[hidden email]>
> To: "NVDA screen reader development" <[hidden email]>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 10:22 AM
> Subject: Re: [Nvda-devel] Accessibility of Google Docs
>
>
>> I have not yet tested it with nvda, how ever on the mac side of things it
>> needs a lot of  work in all browsers. Even wiht accessibilty mode on, all
>> text that you tabbed past is still read even though you are not there
>> anymore. For example it might read the form you just write then read the
>> choices you have and every time you down arrow you have plenty of issues.
>>
>> So for me it needs a lot fo work before I can give it an A. Right  now it
>> gets a big fat D.
>>
>>> On May 27, 2014, at 4:45, Marco Zehe <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Rob,
>>>
>>> it is improving by magnitudes. Using NVDA and Firefox, when turning of
>>> browse mode in NVDA and turning on screen reader support in Docs, you
>>> can do a huge lot through speech output.
>>>
>>> Firefox 30, due out in two weeks, will also fix an issue that will allow
>>> Google to update Docs with a change that will enable braille support.
>>> They're just waiting until Firefox 30 is released, which will happen on
>>> June 10.
>>>
>>> Marco
>>>
>>> Am 27.05.2014 13:16, schrieb Robert Spangler:
>>>> Hello all,
>>>>
>>>> What is the current state of accessibility for Google Docs?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Rob
>>>>
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Re: Accessibility of Google Docs

Sarah Alawami
Ah so you get the same result as I do then. It is still horable and needs a lot of work in my opinion. I am on the google access list but we have not yet discussed google docs there as of yet.

take care.
On May 31, 2014, at 12:13 PM, Robert Spangler <[hidden email]> wrote:

> I barely get it to work with any screen reader.  When it loads, it says
> that I'm online and to press ctrl+alt+z for screen reader mode but it
> does not indicate whether it is in screen reader mode or not when
> pressing this keystroke.  Also, arrowing around produces very little of
> anything.
>
>
> On 5/28/2014 10:35 AM, RJ Sandefur wrote:
>> It's not accessible with Jaws nor window eyes! RJ
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Sarah k Alawami" <[hidden email]>
>> To: "NVDA screen reader development" <[hidden email]>
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 10:22 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Nvda-devel] Accessibility of Google Docs
>>
>>
>>> I have not yet tested it with nvda, how ever on the mac side of things it
>>> needs a lot of  work in all browsers. Even wiht accessibilty mode on, all
>>> text that you tabbed past is still read even though you are not there
>>> anymore. For example it might read the form you just write then read the
>>> choices you have and every time you down arrow you have plenty of issues.
>>>
>>> So for me it needs a lot fo work before I can give it an A. Right  now it
>>> gets a big fat D.
>>>
>>>> On May 27, 2014, at 4:45, Marco Zehe <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Rob,
>>>>
>>>> it is improving by magnitudes. Using NVDA and Firefox, when turning of
>>>> browse mode in NVDA and turning on screen reader support in Docs, you
>>>> can do a huge lot through speech output.
>>>>
>>>> Firefox 30, due out in two weeks, will also fix an issue that will allow
>>>> Google to update Docs with a change that will enable braille support.
>>>> They're just waiting until Firefox 30 is released, which will happen on
>>>> June 10.
>>>>
>>>> Marco
>>>>
>>>> Am 27.05.2014 13:16, schrieb Robert Spangler:
>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>>
>>>>> What is the current state of accessibility for Google Docs?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Rob
>>>>>
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Re: Accessibility of Google Docs

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----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2014 8:13 PM
Subject: Re: [Nvda-devel] Accessibility of Google Docs


>I barely get it to work with any screen reader.  When it loads, it says
> that I'm online and to press ctrl+alt+z for screen reader mode but it
> does not indicate whether it is in screen reader mode or not when
> pressing this keystroke.  Also, arrowing around produces very little of
> anything.
>
>
> On 5/28/2014 10:35 AM, RJ Sandefur wrote:
>> It's not accessible with Jaws nor window eyes! RJ
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Sarah k Alawami" <[hidden email]>
>> To: "NVDA screen reader development" <[hidden email]>
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 10:22 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Nvda-devel] Accessibility of Google Docs
>>
>>
>>> I have not yet tested it with nvda, how ever on the mac side of things
>>> it
>>> needs a lot of  work in all browsers. Even wiht accessibilty mode on,
>>> all
>>> text that you tabbed past is still read even though you are not there
>>> anymore. For example it might read the form you just write then read the
>>> choices you have and every time you down arrow you have plenty of
>>> issues.
>>>
>>> So for me it needs a lot fo work before I can give it an A. Right  now
>>> it
>>> gets a big fat D.
>>>
>>>> On May 27, 2014, at 4:45, Marco Zehe <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Rob,
>>>>
>>>> it is improving by magnitudes. Using NVDA and Firefox, when turning of
>>>> browse mode in NVDA and turning on screen reader support in Docs, you
>>>> can do a huge lot through speech output.
>>>>
>>>> Firefox 30, due out in two weeks, will also fix an issue that will
>>>> allow
>>>> Google to update Docs with a change that will enable braille support.
>>>> They're just waiting until Firefox 30 is released, which will happen on
>>>> June 10.
>>>>
>>>> Marco
>>>>
>>>> Am 27.05.2014 13:16, schrieb Robert Spangler:
>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>>
>>>>> What is the current state of accessibility for Google Docs?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Rob
>>>>>
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